Starting to think Safety!!!!!

[Cheynespub]

Best Shovel for a 06 Summit x

I have the complete setup for riding this year, new sled, rebuilt trailer, etc....

Now I need to focus on some safety stuff.

I was thinking, saftey blanket, GPS, Shovel, Magnesium starter tool, small saw, MRE.....

If you guys can chime in on the best Shovel for an 06 summit X, engine mount preferably that would be great, the rest I can find myself.

Any other items that are a must?

Tampon?

I am only riding with a backpack currently if I need a tunnel bag let me know your favorite!

 

[GoldenRider1]

is the shovel for avy rescue or getting unstuck? if it's your avy shovel it should be in your pack, not on your sled. transceiver? avy course? some survival rations, waterproof matches....otherwise it sounds like you have more stuff than I do!

nate

 

[Cheynespub]

The shovel will be for both. I have watched some videos on Avy's but I would like to have some beers with an expert to learn more. No transevers other than our jackets have sensors on them. However, if I dont have a "tracker" then the sensor wont do much good.

I am looking for an all purpose shovel and saw, maybe a combo tool.

If I get caught in an avy I am not going to be getting my shovel out of a back pack either. I am going to be relying on my buddy to get his *** up too me and start digging.

ya know.

Thanks keep it up

 

[GoldenRider1]

The sensor on your jacket is so your family and friends can have a funeral in a timely fashion. It is not for saving lives, it's for recovering dead bodies. Having a conversation about avalanche safety over pints doesn't cut it.....sign up for a course, watch and learn, and then practice and refresh every year. An avy shovel in your sled does you no good if you sled is buried or swept away or flipped over when you and your buddy or your whole party are involved in the incident. They go in your pack and your pack stays on your body. If I sound like a dick it's on purpose, too many people don't take this stuff serious enough and it puts every back country user in danger when people aren't educated.



nate

 

[Cheynespub]

No harm taken, I understand the seriousness of the situation and you have a good point about the shovel in the pack. can you recomend a pack shovel with a saw combo on it? I only said talk to an expert over some beers because I want to have one on one training. There is no need to "dick" me around because I want to be educated and prepaired to reduce the risk for me and my party. If you know of a course in my area please feel free to add that as well.

Thanks

Cheyne

 

[GoldenRider1]

Avy shovels (as far as I know) that come equipped with saws aren't meant for cutting anythithing outside of snow in your snow profiles/pits. Even though they claim this thing is a razor sharp wood saw (deluxe handle?) I honestly don't think it would be that reliable, the handle on the saw would be the down fall, too flimsy. I have the pro handle with the snow and ice saw, ok for snow profiles as I mentioned above.

http://www.sos-find.com/pages/shovels.html

SOS makes some ok multi-purpose saws, pretty compact.


http://www.sos-find.com/pages/saws.html

They also make good transceivers, probes and shovels etc. I also wouldn't reccomend a shovel handle with the probe built in...shovels can take a beating doing things other than rescuing buddies, best keep an important tool like a probe away from that abuse.

nate

 

[jimmy buffet]

voile shovel.....good stuff.....has probe in or out......saw in or out...

google it.....toull find it

 

[BC-XP]

Ride with a buddy or two.

Chances of everyone getting stuck or breaking down at the same time is pretty slim. Not impossible but a lot less likely.

 

[drscotch]

If you take avy rescue training it's great for your friends but it does nothing for you if you're buried. Make sure your riding friends are all trained too, in a certified course! Go for after.

 

[team dirt]

one more thing is that everyone in the group better have all the equiptment for rescue or you are all screwed. talk to someone who has burried a freind from an avy and you will want everything you can get.

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

saws in shovels break if you cut anything besides a twigs. i have a VOILE shovel, its good stuff, all aluminum besides the t-handle, the thing is rock solid had it for 3 years. I also have a flip open saw from the loca harware store, like 20 bucks and has saved me HOURS of shoveling when running downhil into even small trees that you cant ride over. any long avy probe, a beacon, and some training to know how to use it. all should be in your pack, its kinda nice to have it on the sled for ease of use, but, a life aint worth beeing lazy. the only thing i keep on the sled is the sno-bunjee and that allows me to got most stucks done, so much less getting the shovel. half the time when i need my shovel, one of the guys in the group gets it out for me. if i get stuck where nobody can come and stop, then i need to take my bag off anyways seeing as then im gonna be at if for a while and the bag makes you sweat like a pig.

 

[Cheynespub]

How do the transmiters and beacon work and what should I buy. I havent been riding in really avalanche prone areas yet but I plan to very soon.

Can someone explain the snowbunjee. Is it exactly what it sounds like. Hook it up and then your bud goes like hell while you wait for the whiplash!!!!

Thanks guys and keep me posted if you know about an avy course in oregon.

Cheyne

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

go into the oregon section to ask about getting some avy lessons, as far as beacons, most are pretty decent, but everyone you ride with needs one or then they cant do anything, or you cant find them.

the sled to sled sno-bunjee is like magic, they are a little scary to really rip on at first, it feels like your gonna break it, but you can serisouly get almost any stuck undone once you get familliar with them. hook to a-arms and spindles, as its really easy to bend the crap out of skis doing this trick.

the handheld ones work really well if you have more than one person with them, it allows you to keep much more pressure against the sled versus just pulling on a ski. in our group, of 5 we have 4 handheld bunjees and 1 sled to sled, if you cant get another sled into a really bad stuck, the 4 handhelds on the sled to sled hooked to the sled allows you to pull a stuck sled almost straight uphill, guy rode of the trail and we got him back up quicker than a rope and pulley system to a sled on the trail.