Social Security for Illegal aliens!

[Ak nitro]

I just got this email from my mom, it is a petition to stop Obama from signing this bill that would allow Illegals to get social security. Start a new petition and send it along.
----- Original Message -----

SOCIAL SECURITY CHANGES

It does not matter if you personally like or dislike Obama. You need to sign this petition and flood his e-mail box with e-m ails that tell him that, even if the House passes this bill, he needs to veto it. It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives?

As stated below, the Senate voted this week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits.
Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that requires citizenship for eligibility to that social service.

Instructions are below. If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.

If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.

Thank you!

To add your name, click on 'forward'. Address it to all of your email correspondents, ad d your name to the list and send it on..

When the petition hits 1,000, send it to comment@whitehouse.gov <mailto:comment@whitehouse.gov>

PETITION for President Obama:

Dear Mr. President:
We, the undersigned, protest the bill that the Senate voted on recently which would allow illegal aliens to access our Social Security. We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States. We further demand that there not be any amnesty given to illegal aliens, NO free services, no funding, no payments to and for illegal immigrants

 

[Ollie]

This is something that has been happening for 20 years.
Bush made it legal for ANY relative of a ANYONE living in the US to get SS.
The mexicans figured out 20 years ago that all you need is a PO box in the US. Once you have that, you just fill out the paper work and pick up your free money each month. There are a couple places down by the boarder that thre is a steady stream of people coming across the boarder each month to get their checks.

Oh, and in case you didn't already know.
Obama wants to do away with the southern boarder, even if that means turning the US into a third world nation.

 

[Anti-Hero]

why stop here? Then you have these retards in Colorado lets give out in state tuition to the beaners, oh wait sorry got to be pc illegals, this is such BS with all my money that went to state taxes what the F do i get? we have 127 bridge that are about to fall down so Colorado decides to raise registation fee's 30 bucks per vehicle, I have a better idea you f-ing retards get rid of the illegals, take back our schools and our state. Where is the illegal beaner checkpoint, oh thats right there is no money to be made there, and when these colorado dip$h!ts get 30 more bucks per vehicle, do the beaners care, f- no there cars are from chulpa or whatever, so who gets f-ed once again, the citizens, and our bridges are still about to collapse. what a joke.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2009/feb/02/tuition-bill-affects-immigrants/


I am just fed up with this crap.

 

[bobback]

You know by the time you and I retire, we will have to qualify for ssi...the gov't will look out our other investments, and say sorry, you really don't need ssi. Well gov't, why don't I sign something right now saying I won't ask you for one dime when I retire, as long as I don't have to conribute to ssi.

You want to fix ssi, cut off the people that haven't conrtibuted to it (duh!), and let these congressmen and senators have the same shi$$y benes that we get. O, but they are going to fix it by making people work till they're 90!

Another gov't ran program that is a failure! PASS THE GRAPE KOOL-AID!

 

[finnpacoutdoors]

I will agree with Anti-hero on this one....these fu(king beaners are a sponge on our society. I see them everyday, sometimes work with the lazy fu(kers and am pissed off.

One of them got pissed at me because he had taxes taken out of his check.....All I had to say was, "Welcome to my country AMIGO."

Have you guys heard of "Operation Wetback"....no joke google that chit...I am all for it happening again

 

[bobback]

Have you guys heard of "Operation Wetback"....no joke google that chit...I am all for it happening again

I google'd it...where do I sign the petition!!!

 

[Ollie]

Heres another hot button for ya.
Obama, Palosi and Reid gave La Ranza 400k of our money to "assist in their efforts".
What are their efforts?
To get as many mexicans into the US as possible and make them citizens.
Why?
Their stated goal (go to their website and look it up) is to take over our political system by simply voting in who they want. Once they get those people in, they can use our own system to take over the country without firing a shot.

 

[finnpacoutdoors]

Anyone ready to release the gators in the rio grande?

 

[V-Man]

Not only have I already paid in almost 70,000 to social security, according to the letter I recieved in the mail (I am only 28), I know I will never see much back, but now they want to give it to the people who have never paid a dime!

You were making $61k at the age of 14?

Here's the max withholding for social security for the last 14 years totalling approx $70k

2009 $106,800 6.20% $6,621.60
2008 $102,000 6.20% $6,324.00
2007 $97,500 6.20% $6,045.00
2006 $94,200 6.20% $5,840.40
2005 $90,000 6.20% $5,580.00
2004 $87,900 6.20% $5,449.80
2003 $87,000 6.20% $5,394.00
2001 $80,400 6.20% $4,984.80
2000 $76,200 6.20% $4,724.40
1999 $72,600 6.20% $4,501.20
1998 $68,400 6.20% $4,240.80
1997 $65,400 6.20% $4,054.80
1996 $62,700 6.20% $3,887.40
1995 $61,200 6.20% $3,794.40

 

[johnsodo]

ssi is almost 13% whin you are done

 

[V-Man]

ssi is almost 13% whin you are done

If you are employed by someone else, they match your 6.4% totalling nearly 13%.

I've never been self employed so I don't know, but do people who own their own business or consult have to pay 13%? If so, that sinks!

 

[johnsodo]

If you are employed by someone else, they match your 6.4% totalling nearly 13%.

I've never been self employed so I don't know, but do people who own their own business or consult have to pay 13%? If so, that sinks!

yes it dos bite i have a business with 2 employees
if i did not have to pay ssi at all i would give my guys a 6% raise on my end
thin they wold get a 12.5% raise in their pay check

 

[previous member]

"Illegal Aliens" should get one of two things. The chance to go home or a bullet between the eyes. Sorry, that is my thought on the subject.

This BS of paying people to "illegally" reside in this country makes about as much sense as milking a fence post................

 

[johnsodo]

"Illegal Aliens" should get one of two things. The chance to go home or a bullet between the eyes. Sorry, that is my thought on the subject.

This BS of paying people to "illegally" reside in this country makes about as much sense as milking a fence post................

it should be a rope and a tree on the border and leave them their

 

[Ak nitro]

I cannot actually find the letter they sent me last summer, I just remember when reading it I could not believe how much money I have already paid, I thought it was in that range.I have been working since I was 16 though, and it was not for 61,000 a year. I will remove that part of my statement, I just can't believe that the government knowing very well that social security is going to run out for my generation, is now going to give it to people who have never paid a cent into in their life. I have lived and had to work with Illegals, back in Iowa and Colorado. I know the game they like to play, they told me how it worked, for their taxes they would claim 9 kids so almost nothing of their check went to taxes, like the irs is going to hunt down someone with a fake social security number anyway. They would live 10 people in a 1 bedroom apartment to avoid paying rent. They would get knocked up have kids here and get to stay, while getting free medical care from a hospital that cannot turn them away, racking up millions in debt in small rural towns in Iowa. When the meat packing plant has to shut down due to INS raids the town and tax payers are left with the medical debt that will never be repayed. Every illegal I knew of would send every check back to the homeland for their family, a lot of good that did out economy. Now I saw on the news California cannot afford to lock up dangerous criminal Illegals, so they can come back as much as they want, break as many laws as they want, and can do what ever they please. This is why Alaska is so nice, No Illegals, blue coller jobs still pay good.

 

[Puff_N_AK]

I cannot actually find the letter they sent me last summer, I just remember when reading it I could not believe how much money I have already paid, I thought it was in that range.I have been working since I was 16 though, and it was not for 61,000 a year. I will remove that part of my statement, I just can't believe that the government knowing very well that social security is going to run out for my generation, is now going to give it to people who have never paid a cent into in their life. I have lived and had to work with Illegals, back in Iowa and Colorado. I know the game they like to play, they told me how it worked, for their taxes they would claim 9 kids so almost nothing of their check went to taxes, like the irs is going to hunt down someone with a fake social security number anyway. They would live 10 people in a 1 bedroom apartment to avoid paying rent. They would get knocked up have kids here and get to stay, while getting free medical care from a hospital that cannot turn them away, racking up millions in debt in small rural towns in Iowa. When the meat packing plant has to shut down due to INS raids the town and tax payers are left with the medical debt that will never be repayed. Every illegal I knew of would send every check back to the homeland for their family, a lot of good that did out economy. Now I saw on the news California cannot afford to lock up dangerous criminal Illegals, so they can come back as much as they want, break as many laws as they want, and can do what ever they please. This is why Alaska is so nice, No Illegals, blue coller jobs still pay good.

If it were only true. I am not sure how long you have lived here, but there are plenty of illegals in AK, especially ANC. Not all of them Russians around Delta are legal either. I remember in the 80's having INS come and take workers away my place of employment. Good post though, maybe the Govt should be informing the population how to identify and turn in illegal imigrants. Let ICE and INS do their job. How about we spend billions on securing our borders and existing ENFORCING IMIGRATION LAWS! Instead of F*&%ing the American Taxpayer and blaming their predicessor for the current state of affairs. hey just my .o2

 

[Ak nitro]

If it were only true. I am not sure how long you have lived here, but there are plenty of illegals in AK, especially ANC. Not all of them Russians around Delta are legal either. I remember in the 80's having INS come and take workers away my place of employment. Good post though, maybe the Govt should be informing the population how to identify and turn in illegal imigrants. Let ICE and INS do their job. How about we spend billions on securing our borders and existing ENFORCING IMIGRATION LAWS! Instead of F*&%ing the American Taxpayer and blaming their predicessor for the current state of affairs. hey just my .o2

I have been in Alaska about five years now, I was not thinking about the Russians when I posted, you are definitly right though, They are everywhere.

 

[bobback]

yes it dos bite i have a business with 2 employees
if i did not have to pay ssi at all i would give my guys a 6% raise on my end
thin they wold get a 12.5% raise in their pay check

HELLO! This refers to another post I did...what is in the stimulus plan for small business owners? Joe Biden had no idea.