Not that one shhhhhheeeeeeees. Trapshooters.com anyway I have this huge gripe about a reloader. Without going into detail it has a flawed part and the mfg. knows it and continues to sell it with this substandard part. What really gets me going is they all say "we have never heard of this" in the mean time a after hours machinist guy comes up with a updated part and it sells like hot cakes...and yet "we have never heard of this". Anyway if you guys on here dont think your voices are heard think again. After calling out the companies integrity and ethics with the challenge to come on here and answer........they did. He sent me a PM and wanted my #, I gave it to him and much to my surprise it was a very business mature conversation, I understand there position and they mine (the people), in the end they are working on the problem and are going to have it taken care of. Thanks to forums like these we do have a voice and believe it or not they ARE listning.