Snowest big turbo shoot out?
- Thread starter Himark
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Talk about a ton of variables.
Pump gas vs race gas.
Stock sled vs sled with a bunch of lightweight parts.
1 rider vs many riders doing each test.
Do you put the 4 stroke in the same bag as the 2 stroke.
Boost level on the race gas machine.
I would love to see a real shoot out like this. And when I say "see" I mean be there on the hill not reading about it 3 months later.
Pump gas vs race gas.
Stock sled vs sled with a bunch of lightweight parts.
1 rider vs many riders doing each test.
Do you put the 4 stroke in the same bag as the 2 stroke.
Boost level on the race gas machine.
I would love to see a real shoot out like this. And when I say "see" I mean be there on the hill not reading about it 3 months later.
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It would be as big of a joke as the deep powder shoot out issue is every year..Snowest would never tell the truth afraid of losing advertising..
Is there another company that makes sled you'd want to turbo?
Yeah... I didn't think so
I Agree! I dont think its just going to majically happen. I think there will have to be some strict guidlines. Maybe we should use this thread to outline some of those and let SW take it from there.
What are the absolutes IYO that should be adheared to?
This should not be a "sled shoot out" but a Turbo kit comparison.
Plenty of drag races out there that show off a full-pull mod race gas turbo setup. I've ridden with some of these sleds that win on "normal riding days"... not the most fun and always "tinkering" with the sled.
I'd like to see a consumer offering type of test.
So...Here's my 2 cents.
Sled for sled comparison... same brand, track, year, model.
Stock except for Pump Gas kit.
Sled brought in stock and converted while there. Then all run on the same pump gas.
Mfg brings their kit in the box, same as sold to the customer.
Sleds are all run for 3 days to compare ease of installation, User friendliness, function on the hill/reliabiliy, ease of tuning and then performance. Noise readings should also be taken on a drive-by.
Race gas adds another variable that, for the purpose of an "average consumer" use, does not apply to the masses.
Those that don't have faith in their kits as truly "consumer friendly" would obviously not come.
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Plenty of drag races out there that show off a full-pull mod race gas turbo setup. I've ridden with some of these sleds that win on "normal riding days"... not the most fun and always "tinkering" with the sled.
I'd like to see a consumer offering type of test.
So...Here's my 2 cents.
Sled for sled comparison... same brand, track, year, model.
Stock except for Pump Gas kit.
Sled brought in stock and converted while there. Then all run on the same pump gas.
Mfg brings their kit in the box, same as sold to the customer.
Sleds are all run for 3 days to compare ease of installation, User friendliness, function on the hill/reliabiliy, ease of tuning and then performance. Noise readings should also be taken on a drive-by.
Race gas adds another variable that, for the purpose of an "average consumer" use, does not apply to the masses.
Those that don't have faith in their kits as truly "consumer friendly" would obviously not come.
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I somewhat agree until that last part, so now if one doesn't show there not any good or whatever, (nice try) there is not a kit on the market that can't be ran to perfection with the right guy tuning it. If your not a tuner than you need a good dealer for half of them to make sure its done right.
In the past with a properly setup kit if you set the fuel setting to 0 on all kits, on a twisted, cutler or ovs you can enter the numbers they tell you and easily tune it from there and then pretty much leave it. On a BD kit you enter there numbers and hope it works and read a 100 page book, spend 10hrs on the phone and maybe talk to some budies and you will start to understand how it works so you can actually get the performance out of it. (I really like some of there options but not for everyone) But if everything works as it should (with BD its 50/50 sometimes) you can tune some aspects a lot closer and maybe more performance "if" you know what you are doing. So its not all about the kit.
What do you think the results would be if you handed the kits to a knowledgeable tuner (not a dealer) and said here put these on and make it run. That would be a whole different story.
If products worked 100% like they should I would probably piece together a kit using stuff from 5 different kit builders.
To many variables but if you want to try go for it, I already know after the 800 review where last year the xp was the best and now this year its the pro and both sleds hardly changed its kind of a joke, good laugh.
Seems like it'd be a interesting read..
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Im in can we do it in revy?
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Im in can we do it in revy? But this will never happen was supposed to happen in cooke a wile back, no one showed. I would think that if all the guys who build turbos would actually ride together and work together, and learn from each other our sport would be better off and tecknology would progress much faster we would cut R&D time in half. in turn this would bring a better product to the customers not just one but everybodys customers.
I don't think anyone can argue against that.
The options are all over and if a guy/kit builders could put together curtain parts from different kits and had the support to make it work properly, or even build new stuff with the support the options and abilities would be endless. Could possibly even bring the cost down with better results.
I would much rather see SW put the effort into something like that.
not interested uless its for two strokes, don't want to encourage them to build anymore heavy 4 strokes that don't feel heavy until i have to help you get the tank unstuck. gee does it feel heavy when it burried to the bars???
