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Snowbiking is incredible. Way, too much fun. (Pics-sometime)

Boy oh boy. While I got the first rides of the season out of me, between the week before the x-mas holiday, then x-mas weekend, followed by New Years, then today, well, today topped all the days before today.

I had mentioned to my BIL-who got himself a 2008 CRF450X, and that I put another 2018 Camso DTS 129 kit on, with a Thermobob, PST engine jacket, and the Trail Tech temp guage, and he is happy as the bike and motor are all there. A review on that bike either later in this thread or in another thread altogether.

It is late but I felt like writing so I can go to bed sooner. I would have liked to go riding again tomorrow but it is going to warm up thru Saturday so today was the very best day and was the best day or riding I have ever had. Why? We had to break trail every where we went and we both got to ride so many new places and the powder was about perfect. Really deep in places but always more than enough powder to have nothing but fun with the Camso's.

It is true, true, true, that as long as there is snow, and nothing under the snow to hang the track up on, the bike will go up and through the snow. We have both been amazed at how easy it is to point and shoot, and we also agree that the power of the 450, his the CRF, and my 478cc Beta motor. As his bike is a 2008 and mine a 2017, I think that everything about my bike is better. At least the two or three biggest things and here they are, in no order:

I can't stand a full-turn throttle. I have a G2 quick turn throttle and also have the same quick turn throttle, cam and Jimmy Twister-the sealed ball bearing insert so that the aluminum throttle tube has as little friction or stiction, and the shortest turn possible. I L-O-V-E, love, luv, the quick turn and Jimy twister, did I mention that already. Everything else feels both sloppy, slow and crude by comparison and I know that the throttle control is that important to me.

Next up, the clutch, hydraulic vs cable, adjustable pull/reach vs fixed reach/pull. I'm spoiled with the adjustable hydraulic clutch. It just feels right. The massive pull and accompanying slop on the Honda must be the difference between just ok and really fine.

The last is the gearbox/gearshifter. My gearbox is close ratio and the throw is short and precise. The Honda's box, while it might be a close ratio box as it is an X-model, doesn't feel as close but this could be the clutch making me think that the box is not close, never mind what seems like a long travel in the shifter. It could be that I have a shorter gearshifter on my bike that is making the difference but it makes a huge difference to me and I know that all these things could easily be corrected and that the CRF is not my bike, but those happen to be the differences today. Powerwise, they both have enough power but as the CRF has a Yoshimura pipe, the bike doesn't feel as powerful as it is down some 29cc's to my bike, and the 450X is also carbureted whereas mine is FI, the nod is for the FI, 478cc'd powerplant FTW. Still, both bikes had more than enough power for today's riding.

More tomorrow, ok?

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Glad to hear you're enjoying it. All Beta's are Wide Ratio transmissions, as is the 450X Honda.
 
Glad to hear you are lovin the sport. The snow line looks pretty low around there. Are the pics relative to the majority of the terrain you have ridden so far? If so, you haven't even scratched the surface of how much fun you will have once you start exploring. If you think you are smiling now...
 
Every time I get out and ride, I never had the presence of mind to take pictures of us out in the boondocks/way out in the forests/hills and it is always while we're at the farm before heading out. As the farm is so wide open, the snow gets blown and of course, there are drifts and places where there is a lot of snow and where there is less.

There is only an average of 20-25" on the ground up where we are riding so it isn't bottomless powder, but there are powder stashes on lots of the clearcuts/meadows where the combination of location/north facing/south facing-whatever happens where the snow piles up where it was 3-4' deep and of course, a blast to ride in.
 
Be careful what you wish for.

I took a long lost friend out yesterday as an intro to snow biking...we went up just one hour north of Toronto (around Horseshoe Valley). It was my second ride on the Camso/300 XCW and it told me I have the perfect match for Southern Ontario's low altitude terrain and relatively warm temperatures - best compromise between summer and winter conversions.

The snow was six inches of new stuff over a two week old, one foot base. The more I go out the better this sport gets. My first timer friend was scared ****less at first but it only takes an hour of: falling over, realizing your foot bracing won't help, leaning harder on turns etc., till you get more confidence and start to push the old girl more into corners to increase the fun factor.

Nobody is out there in the virgin woods, fresh snow. Snowmobiles were just around the corner on their trails but who wants to ride in anything other than fresh powder anyway - I don't get the snowmobile thing?

snow bikes:snowmobiles=dirt bikes:quads

There is only one potential problem with this sport. I noticed everyone is hoping for more popularity, better parts etc. This could be a bad thing in the long term. Right now, we can go anywhere as Ben has described above. Hell, sometimes the ditch is even the best place. But if more snow bikes get out there, there's going to be more regulation and policing - not a good thing IMO.

For now, enjoy this while you can before the programmers of the Matrix catch up with us.
 
I took a long lost friend out yesterday as an intro to snow biking...we went up just one hour north of Toronto (around Horseshoe Valley). It was my second ride on the Camso/300 XCW and it told me I have the perfect match for Southern Ontario's low altitude terrain and relatively warm temperatures - best compromise between summer and winter conversions.

The snow was six inches of new stuff over a two week old, one foot base. The more I go out the better this sport gets. My first timer friend was scared ****less at first but it only takes an hour of: falling over, realizing your foot bracing won't help, leaning harder on turns etc., till you get more confidence and start to push the old girl more into corners to increase the fun factor.

Nobody is out there in the virgin woods, fresh snow. Snowmobiles were just around the corner on their trails but who wants to ride in anything other than fresh powder anyway - I don't get the snowmobile thing?

snow bikes:snowmobiles=dirt bikes:quads

There is only one potential problem with this sport. I noticed everyone is hoping for more popularity, better parts etc. This could be a bad thing in the long term. Right now, we can go anywhere as Ben has described above. Hell, sometimes the ditch is even the best place. But if more snow bikes get out there, there's going to be more regulation and policing - not a good thing IMO.

For now, enjoy this while you can before the programmers of the Matrix catch up with us.

I was waiting for your ride report. That is so awesome that you got to take your friend and I'll agree, even though I have been racking up some time on the snowbike, it can be tricky at times keeping the bike up and we fall over all the time, it is part of the game as we don't have the wide open spaces like out west. When we explore and the trail ends, we have to plan the turnaround as the snowbikes need all the room to get it done, you and all of us that ride know.

It is so true, the more we go, the better and better it gets. We've waited all our lives for this thrill and it is now.

I agree, the snowmobile is now obsolete. I don't want to ride it unless the conditions are not right for the bike.

At least in NH, because the snowbike is a tracked vehicle and meets the definition of a snowmobile, we are free to ride the trails. It is the O/T stuff that is questionable and not legal unless we get written permission.

Up where my BIL is, he had permission and in some cases, it is his land. We are lucky as you are right, virgin powder and the old orchards, clearcuts, huge hayfields, are such an awesome playground.
 
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