I have a 1995 regular cab 4x4 Ford f150 and just wanted to know if it will hold a sled deck and 2 sleds. I have heard that 1/2 tons and sled decks are not good. I am located on BC canada. let me know yer info guys
Sled Decks and 1/2 tons
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Check your payload rating. Pretty sure with 2 sleds and a deck, you will be way over the limit on the F150
I think I've seen this topic posted about 10 times this year and I've read it every time. It seems that the consensus is that you will for sure be overweight on a half ton. Some guys add airbags and think its ok. But airbags or not, your still overweight. On top of that from reading prior threads BC has some watchful eyes that will stop you and check if your overweight. Probably a lot worse than the states.
So, long story short....You can do it, but you'll be overweight and probably unsafe. And if you get caught you'll have to pay a fine. Did I miss anything?
So, long story short....You can do it, but you'll be overweight and probably unsafe. And if you get caught you'll have to pay a fine. Did I miss anything?
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Trenchmaster
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Half tons are for bringing home the groceries or a few sheets of drywall, if you want to haul or tow buy at least a 3/4 ton, JMHO!!!
I looked at the GAWR rating for the rear axel and its 3700 lbs so i dont know. more and more i read its doable but not a great idea
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try it out, i have one on my reg cab short box 1/2 ton with air bags, and have no problems, worse comes to worse you have a deck for your next truck
Honestly you need to do some research on your truck
I found that my truck will be fine and legal for a sled deck
ex: my 03 f150 4x4 SC 7700 w/plow package I have a payload of 2670 lbs according to the ford link I have for my truck
I looked for yours and came up blank
I found that my truck will be fine and legal for a sled deck
ex: my 03 f150 4x4 SC 7700 w/plow package I have a payload of 2670 lbs according to the ford link I have for my truck
I looked for yours and came up blank
thanks for your input guys. i weighed my truck and with my specific sleds and the deck i would be just over the gvw. i guess im lookin at trailers now,
Don't do it.
A half ton has a semi floating axle, and a 3/4 ton has a full floating axle.
In a full-floating axle, the axle bearing is placed on the outside of the axle housing. This places all the vehicle weight on the axle housing and none on the axle itself. This is important for the front axle which is generally a short shaft.
In the semi-floating axle, the axle bearing is placed in the axle housing and the axle carries some of the load of the vehicle. The main advantage of the semi-floating is that it is simpler (i.e. cheaper)
Here is a pic for example.
A half ton has a semi floating axle, and a 3/4 ton has a full floating axle.
In a full-floating axle, the axle bearing is placed on the outside of the axle housing. This places all the vehicle weight on the axle housing and none on the axle itself. This is important for the front axle which is generally a short shaft.
In the semi-floating axle, the axle bearing is placed in the axle housing and the axle carries some of the load of the vehicle. The main advantage of the semi-floating is that it is simpler (i.e. cheaper)
Here is a pic for example.
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High Velocity
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It seems this question is posted every year. People need to realize that putting on airbags or overload springs does not increase your LEGAL GVWR. The simple truth is that a 1/2 ton is not LEGALLY capable of carrying a deck and two sleds (at least in western Canada). If you want to try, then go for it, but if the wrong D.O.T. officer stops you, you may be in for a bad day. Good luck.
huh, all 1/2 tons? my payload on my truck (2006 chev Z71 qc, sb, 4x4) is 2800lbs. my steel 2 place deck weighs 600lbs. my sled weighs lets say 600 as well (09 HCR 800, full of fuel and ice/snow) x 2 = 1800lbs. so lets say my buddy weighs 200 and i weigh 200 plus our gear weighs 200. we are at 2400lbs. and these weights are ALL over esitmates. im still 400lbs below payload capacity. how am i over? im not being a smartass...serious question because i just put the deck on last week. i did all the math and figured i'd be ok. but i dont know all the rules and such. if i am under the payload capacity rating on the truck, should i not be legal? i look forward to any insight to this. thanks!
i did not run airbags but went with an extra leaf. i know this has nothing to do with payload capacity, i just wanted to relieve the shocks somewhat.
ok....so i just got off the phone with the number that was provided in an early post. this is what the dude said
take a look at the 3 weight guides on your drivers side door (vin number) there should be a GVWR, front axle rating, and a rear axle rating. if what your putting in or on your truck exceeds ANY of these numbers you are illegal. i have to go check....i think im fawked! lol
Sled Decks on 1/2 Ton Trucks...info....
maybe make a sticky?
i just got back from getting my truck weighed at a local Commercial Vehicle Inspection scale. to sum it up...there is NO WAY a half ton (1500) pick up truck can carry a sled deck carrying 2 sleds. rule of thumb is 1000lbs for 1/2 tons, 1500lbs for 3/4 tons, 2000lbs for 1 tons. in fact MOST 1 tons if pulled over by the MVE would be in violation of being over weight. i was SHOCKED to find that out. this is coming right from the mouth of an inspector. they weighed my truck. it came in at 2680kgs with me in it. right on my VIN on my door it states max 3175kgs. do the math! i could get away with my deck and one sled...thats PUSHING it. think of it, 2 sleds, a deck, 2 dudes, extra fuel, helmets, gear, food, and of course beer and the 3/4 tons are OVER!
can you still run a deck on a 1/2 ton? yes. with 2 sleds? yes. is it legal? unfortunately YES.
super bummed out. but it is for safety. and thats what really matters.
maybe make a sticky?
i just got back from getting my truck weighed at a local Commercial Vehicle Inspection scale. to sum it up...there is NO WAY a half ton (1500) pick up truck can carry a sled deck carrying 2 sleds. rule of thumb is 1000lbs for 1/2 tons, 1500lbs for 3/4 tons, 2000lbs for 1 tons. in fact MOST 1 tons if pulled over by the MVE would be in violation of being over weight. i was SHOCKED to find that out. this is coming right from the mouth of an inspector. they weighed my truck. it came in at 2680kgs with me in it. right on my VIN on my door it states max 3175kgs. do the math! i could get away with my deck and one sled...thats PUSHING it. think of it, 2 sleds, a deck, 2 dudes, extra fuel, helmets, gear, food, and of course beer and the 3/4 tons are OVER!
can you still run a deck on a 1/2 ton? yes. with 2 sleds? yes. is it legal? unfortunately YES.
super bummed out. but it is for safety. and thats what really matters.
i found out the answer today. went to a MVE scale its here:
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2021996#post2021996
In Alberta the regs are different. The DOT only looks at your tires. What's legal is whatever's stamped on the sidewall for max weight, or 10 kg per mm of tire width, whichever is lesser. The regs exist only to protect the roads from damage. You could literally pull a D10 Caterpillar behind a ford tempo if you had it balanced perfectly on the right trailer. The AB regs are great- they're so simple! I just hope they never change.
In BC, they go by the gvwr, or gcwr when pulling a trailer (c is for "combination"), and it will always be a lot less weight than is allowed in AB. Appparently, the regs in BC have more to do with safety because of their hilly terrain (I think the gvwr and gcwr have something to do with power to weight ratio). If your truck is a Ford, you can find out more from Ford's towing guide at https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/default.asp
On a side note, Ive heard that sled decks are technically illegal in both provinces because of how high up they place weight on the truck, but the rule has never been enforced.
In BC, they go by the gvwr, or gcwr when pulling a trailer (c is for "combination"), and it will always be a lot less weight than is allowed in AB. Appparently, the regs in BC have more to do with safety because of their hilly terrain (I think the gvwr and gcwr have something to do with power to weight ratio). If your truck is a Ford, you can find out more from Ford's towing guide at https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/default.asp
On a side note, Ive heard that sled decks are technically illegal in both provinces because of how high up they place weight on the truck, but the rule has never been enforced.
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