I have a custom built steel sled deck, with no lighting, just reflective tape. I dont recall the width off hand (if that matters). I was wondering if there are any requirements for running lights (marker lights, tail lights)? I notice most decks have lights. Is that for added safety or is that required by law?
Sled deck lighting requirements?
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I had a thread a couple months back asking same thing. I think the consensus is that you need side amber clearance lights at the front, red on the side rear, and 3 center tail lights. I think if you want to get sticky you need a light at the point furthest back ( sled ) if it hangs past the vehicle's tail lights more than 1m. I haven't heard about anyone getting flack for this part.
state cop pulled me over and measured width with tape measure. i was 8'6" exactly the limit. She could not do anything but she made a bullsh!tt story up that she "thinks" it can only only be 6" overhang and not 10". Her exact words, I THINK. But then again up here little old valley county cops are pretty bored and have nothing better to do, also since its a small town i notices here brother got one with out perimeter lighting which mine has and his is still on there????
can anyone refer me to mb1's previous thead about this subject?
ran into the same woman cop in cascade last year, she wanted to give me a 200 dollar ticket for bing over width, my deck is only 8 feet which is the same as my over head camper, when i pointed that out she got real pissy. i called her boss and ISP and was referred to a guy at the port of entry in boise and when it was all said and done the word i got was not to worry about it unless i went over 8ft 6 inches.
i talked to a state cop friend of mine that works with me part time and he says she doesnt work up in valley county anymore, she was moved to port of entry to do just comercial vehicle stuff
i talked to a state cop friend of mine that works with me part time and he says she doesnt work up in valley county anymore, she was moved to port of entry to do just comercial vehicle stuff
she does still do all valley, she lives in donnelly, she was the high school cop that would come to the school and what not when i was in school a couple years ago. she was city then, she went to isp ang got on a power trip and hasnt come off it. She is the only one who harrases people about this, just call isp they will drop it if she gives you a ticket, buddy got a ticket for it last year, called isp and asked why they are illegal and thay said we have no idae, so dropped
WIDTH 2.032 m (80 in.) OR WIDER http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/Trlrpstr.html This covers regulations in Canada and the US. I hope it sheds some light on it for ya .
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maybe i didnt read it right but hat looks like its only for trailers to me
The width requirement remains the same reguardless of what your using.
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http://www.snowandmud.com/forum/f77/lights-deck-8119.html
From another site. You know you wanted another thing to sign up for anyways right?
The most important part is the side marker lights. My deck doesn't have any of the ones on the rear and I haven't been bothered. Granted if you have no lights right now and just about to put them in, I would do them all just to be safe.
In idaho the rule was 8'6'' but on non commercial vehicles there could be no over hang on the drivers side. So the question was is it (the sled deck) part of the load or is it part of the vehicle. At the time this was happening I was ( now retired) the chief deputy in Adams County I spoke with the ISP patrol captain and this issue was settled with the help of ITD port of entry. Deck are part of the vehicle!!! the 8'6" width applys they are legal. as far as lights I would have to research that but mine has lights so I have worried about that aspect. FYI a statewide memo was sent to all ISP troopers. They all know sled decks up to 8'6" are legal.
good to know. thanks
Idaho regulations
Since I sell sled decks in Oregon. This topic is very important to me. We all travel other states to sled. I have heard that you can not enter canada without marker lights and a headache rack. I will research each western state and canada to find out. Here is what I found out about Idaho. In Idaho the maximum width (load or vehicle) is 8'6".
TITLE 49
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 10
WEIGHT, SPEED AND TIRE REGULATIONS
49-1010. SIZE OF VEHICLES AND LOADS. No vehicle shall exceed the
dimensions specified below, except that certain devices determined by the
board as necessary for the safe and efficient operation of motor vehicles,
including energy conservation devices, shall be excluded from the calculation
of width or length.
(1) The width of a vehicle, including any load thereon, except as noted
below, shall not exceed .......................................... 8 1/2 feet.
(a) The limitations as to size of vehicles stated in this section shall
not apply to farm tractors or to implements of husbandry, including any
load thereon, or any trailer not wider than the implement of husbandry
used in the transportation of implements of husbandry for agricultural
operations, and including all equipment used in land leveling operations,
when being incidentally operated upon the highway from one (1) farm
operation to another during daylight hours.
(b) Notwithstanding the exemption from width limitation for farm tractors
included in paragraph (a) of this subsection, the total outside width of
any farm tractor being transported on the interstate system in this state,
except as permitted by section 49-1004, Idaho Code, shall not exceed
.................................................................. 9 feet.
Since I sell sled decks in Oregon. This topic is very important to me. We all travel other states to sled. I have heard that you can not enter canada without marker lights and a headache rack. I will research each western state and canada to find out. Here is what I found out about Idaho. In Idaho the maximum width (load or vehicle) is 8'6".
TITLE 49
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 10
WEIGHT, SPEED AND TIRE REGULATIONS
49-1010. SIZE OF VEHICLES AND LOADS. No vehicle shall exceed the
dimensions specified below, except that certain devices determined by the
board as necessary for the safe and efficient operation of motor vehicles,
including energy conservation devices, shall be excluded from the calculation
of width or length.
(1) The width of a vehicle, including any load thereon, except as noted
below, shall not exceed .......................................... 8 1/2 feet.
(a) The limitations as to size of vehicles stated in this section shall
not apply to farm tractors or to implements of husbandry, including any
load thereon, or any trailer not wider than the implement of husbandry
used in the transportation of implements of husbandry for agricultural
operations, and including all equipment used in land leveling operations,
when being incidentally operated upon the highway from one (1) farm
operation to another during daylight hours.
(b) Notwithstanding the exemption from width limitation for farm tractors
included in paragraph (a) of this subsection, the total outside width of
any farm tractor being transported on the interstate system in this state,
except as permitted by section 49-1004, Idaho Code, shall not exceed
.................................................................. 9 feet.
Oregon Requirement
In Oregon the maximum width (vehicle or load ) is 8' 6". However there are regulations that the load on the drivers side can not extend past the line of the fenders. My guess is that you can get out of any ticket due the simple fact that all truck campers exceed this driver side requirement. All camper are required in Oregon to be licensed by DMV. It would be more hazardous to have a uneven load on any vehicle.
SIZE
818.080 Maximum size limits. This section
establishes maximum size limits for purposes
of ORS 818.090. Except where an
exemption under ORS 818.100 specifically
provides otherwise, any vehicle or load
thereon that exceeds a maximum allowable
size as determined by any of the following
tables exceeds the maximum size limits for
purposes of ORS 818.090:
(1) A vehicle or combination of vehicles,
as appropriate, exceeds the maximum allowable
size if a dimension of the vehicle, combination
of vehicles or load thereon is
beyond an applicable maximum size allowable
on the following table:
__________________________________________
TABLE I
Dimension Limit applicable to: Maximum
limited: allowable
size, in
feet, for
dimension
limited:
(1) Total
outside
width.............Any vehicle........................ 8½
(2) Height,
including
load................Any vehicle........................ 14
(3) Length...........Any vehicle
operating singly................ 40
Vehicle in
combination
of vehicles.......................... 40
Combination of
vehicles,
including load ................... 60
Combination of
vehicles that includes
a stinger-steered
pole trailer......................... 65
(4) Length of
load on
vehicle...........Any vehicle
operating
singly or as a
unit in
a combination
of vehicles.......................... 40
__________________________________________
The maximum limit on height under the table
in this subsection does not relieve the
owner or driver of any vehicle or combination
of vehicles from the exercise of due care
in determining that sufficient vertical clearance
is provided upon the highways and
streets where the vehicle or combination of
vehicles is being operated.
(2) A vehicle or combination of vehicles,
as appropriate, exceeds the maximum allowable
size if a portion of the vehicle, combination
of vehicles or load thereon is subject
to a limitation under the following table and
that portion extends farther than the maximum
limit of allowable extension beyond a
designated point as determined by the following
table:
__________________________________________
TABLE II
Designated point: Limit applicable to: Maximum
limit of
allowable
extension
beyond
designated
point:
(1) Line of left
fenders of
vehicle..............Load on any
passenger
vehicle ........................ No
allowable
extension
Title 59 Page 349 (2005 Edition)
818.090 OREGON VEHICLE CODE
beyond
designated
point.
(2) Line of right
fenders of
vehicle..............Load on any
passenger
vehicle ........................ 6 inches
In Oregon the maximum width (vehicle or load ) is 8' 6". However there are regulations that the load on the drivers side can not extend past the line of the fenders. My guess is that you can get out of any ticket due the simple fact that all truck campers exceed this driver side requirement. All camper are required in Oregon to be licensed by DMV. It would be more hazardous to have a uneven load on any vehicle.
SIZE
818.080 Maximum size limits. This section
establishes maximum size limits for purposes
of ORS 818.090. Except where an
exemption under ORS 818.100 specifically
provides otherwise, any vehicle or load
thereon that exceeds a maximum allowable
size as determined by any of the following
tables exceeds the maximum size limits for
purposes of ORS 818.090:
(1) A vehicle or combination of vehicles,
as appropriate, exceeds the maximum allowable
size if a dimension of the vehicle, combination
of vehicles or load thereon is
beyond an applicable maximum size allowable
on the following table:
__________________________________________
TABLE I
Dimension Limit applicable to: Maximum
limited: allowable
size, in
feet, for
dimension
limited:
(1) Total
outside
width.............Any vehicle........................ 8½
(2) Height,
including
load................Any vehicle........................ 14
(3) Length...........Any vehicle
operating singly................ 40
Vehicle in
combination
of vehicles.......................... 40
Combination of
vehicles,
including load ................... 60
Combination of
vehicles that includes
a stinger-steered
pole trailer......................... 65
(4) Length of
load on
vehicle...........Any vehicle
operating
singly or as a
unit in
a combination
of vehicles.......................... 40
__________________________________________
The maximum limit on height under the table
in this subsection does not relieve the
owner or driver of any vehicle or combination
of vehicles from the exercise of due care
in determining that sufficient vertical clearance
is provided upon the highways and
streets where the vehicle or combination of
vehicles is being operated.
(2) A vehicle or combination of vehicles,
as appropriate, exceeds the maximum allowable
size if a portion of the vehicle, combination
of vehicles or load thereon is subject
to a limitation under the following table and
that portion extends farther than the maximum
limit of allowable extension beyond a
designated point as determined by the following
table:
__________________________________________
TABLE II
Designated point: Limit applicable to: Maximum
limit of
allowable
extension
beyond
designated
point:
(1) Line of left
fenders of
vehicle..............Load on any
passenger
vehicle ........................ No
allowable
extension
Title 59 Page 349 (2005 Edition)
818.090 OREGON VEHICLE CODE
beyond
designated
point.
(2) Line of right
fenders of
vehicle..............Load on any
passenger
vehicle ........................ 6 inches
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Washington State Requirement
Washington requirement is 8'6"
RCW 46.44.010
Outside width limit.
The total outside width of any vehicle or load thereon must not exceed eight and one-half feet; except that an externally mounted rear vision mirror may extend beyond the width limits of the vehicle body to a point that allows the driver a view to the rear of the vehicle along both sides in conformance with Federal National Safety Standard 111 (49 C.F.R. 571.111), and RCW 46.37.400. Excluded from this calculation of width are certain devices that provide added safety, energy conservation, or are otherwise necessary, and are not designed or used to carry cargo. The width-exclusive devices must be identified in rules adopted by the department of transportation under RCW 46.44.101. A width-exclusive device must not extend more than three inches beyond the width limit of the vehicle body.
Washington requirement is 8'6"
RCW 46.44.010
Outside width limit.
The total outside width of any vehicle or load thereon must not exceed eight and one-half feet; except that an externally mounted rear vision mirror may extend beyond the width limits of the vehicle body to a point that allows the driver a view to the rear of the vehicle along both sides in conformance with Federal National Safety Standard 111 (49 C.F.R. 571.111), and RCW 46.37.400. Excluded from this calculation of width are certain devices that provide added safety, energy conservation, or are otherwise necessary, and are not designed or used to carry cargo. The width-exclusive devices must be identified in rules adopted by the department of transportation under RCW 46.44.101. A width-exclusive device must not extend more than three inches beyond the width limit of the vehicle body.
Navada Requirement
Nevada requirement is 8'6"
MAXIMUM WIDTH NRS 484.759
• 102 Inches excluding: Mirrors, lights, other safety devices, and any hardware required for an awning, which does not extend beyond any mirror that is attached to a recreational vehicle.
• If equipped with pneumatic tires, maximum width from the outside of the wheel and tire to the outside of the opposite outer wheel and tire must
Nevada requirement is 8'6"
MAXIMUM WIDTH NRS 484.759
• 102 Inches excluding: Mirrors, lights, other safety devices, and any hardware required for an awning, which does not extend beyond any mirror that is attached to a recreational vehicle.
• If equipped with pneumatic tires, maximum width from the outside of the wheel and tire to the outside of the opposite outer wheel and tire must
California Requirement
California requirement is 8'6" (General Rule). Same drivers side issue as in oregon
GENERAL RULE
35100. (a) The total outside width of any vehicle or its load shall not exceed 102 inches.
MEASUREMENT
35100.1. (a) The metric equivalent of 102 inches is 2.6 meters.
(b) The width measurement of any vehicle with side walls shall be made from the outside wall of the two opposite sides of the vehicle.
CITIES & COUNTIES
35100. (c) A city or county may prohibit a width in excess of 96 inches upon highways under its jurisdiction.
35105. Any city organized under a freeholders' charter may permit a width in excess of these limits when used within the city.
VEHICLE & LOAD EXEMPTIONS
35101. When any vehicle is equipped with pneumatic tires, the maximum width from the outside of one wheel and tire to the opposite shall not exceed 108 inches.
35100.5. The outside width of a cotton module mover and the load thereon shall not exceed 130 inches in width. For details, see the web page: Cotton Module Movers.
35102. When any vehicle carries a load of loosely piled agricultural products such as hay, straw, or leguminous plants in bulk but not crated, baled, boxed, or sacked, the load shall not exceed 120 inches in width.
35104. The following vehicles shall not exceed a width of 120 inches: (a) Special mobile equipment. (b) Special construction or highway maintenance equipment. (c) Motor vehicles for hauling feed for livestock that are exempted from registration, except when operated on a highway during darkness.
35111. No passenger vehicle shall be operated on any highway with any load extending beyond the line of the fenders on its left side or more than six inches beyond the line of the fenders on its right side.
California requirement is 8'6" (General Rule). Same drivers side issue as in oregon
GENERAL RULE
35100. (a) The total outside width of any vehicle or its load shall not exceed 102 inches.
MEASUREMENT
35100.1. (a) The metric equivalent of 102 inches is 2.6 meters.
(b) The width measurement of any vehicle with side walls shall be made from the outside wall of the two opposite sides of the vehicle.
CITIES & COUNTIES
35100. (c) A city or county may prohibit a width in excess of 96 inches upon highways under its jurisdiction.
35105. Any city organized under a freeholders' charter may permit a width in excess of these limits when used within the city.
VEHICLE & LOAD EXEMPTIONS
35101. When any vehicle is equipped with pneumatic tires, the maximum width from the outside of one wheel and tire to the opposite shall not exceed 108 inches.
35100.5. The outside width of a cotton module mover and the load thereon shall not exceed 130 inches in width. For details, see the web page: Cotton Module Movers.
35102. When any vehicle carries a load of loosely piled agricultural products such as hay, straw, or leguminous plants in bulk but not crated, baled, boxed, or sacked, the load shall not exceed 120 inches in width.
35104. The following vehicles shall not exceed a width of 120 inches: (a) Special mobile equipment. (b) Special construction or highway maintenance equipment. (c) Motor vehicles for hauling feed for livestock that are exempted from registration, except when operated on a highway during darkness.
35111. No passenger vehicle shall be operated on any highway with any load extending beyond the line of the fenders on its left side or more than six inches beyond the line of the fenders on its right side.
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