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Skinz A.R.C. intall question

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Installed the 3-position (Fox shock) ARC on the Axys today. The install was straight forward, especially since I'm used to working on bikes (similar cable system). My question, for those that have the system, is regarding the lock-out. When I have the "shifter" in position 2 (pushed in), the rear suspension gets firmer but does not "lock-out". I made sure that the cable tension was correct and that the shock dial was fully activated. Does this sound correct or should the shock lock out completely? Thanks.
 
Skinz outlines a procedure to test on the shop floor. If my skis and tracks are on the concrete, can't even tell a difference between uncoupled and the 3rd position.

I forget exactly how they tell to test but you've got to have the skid cribbed under the scissor.
 
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Hope this is helpfull...from the Skinz site.

There is a specific way to test the function of ARC to see if its working, you’ll need to do this so that we can figure out why your not feeling the results. If your sled is sitting flat on the ground and you or any one else gets on the sled, you are compressing both the center shock and the rear shock at the same time. In other words you are already coupling, so engaging ARC wont show any difference. You have to isolate the rear shock as if the skis are lifted. First make sure that if your naturally aspirated you have 50 psi in the ARC shock and if your running boost then use 100 psi. Then place the skis on blocks and use a similar height block directly underneath the rear scissor (not the shock). This simulates an isolated load on the rear shock which is what ARC will assist. Press down on the rear a few time and then engage ARC. You should feel a noticeable change in the rear when its engaged, if not then the shock is not making it into its stiffest position. This is usually caused by play or stretch in the cable, which can easily be remedied by adjusting the cable tensioner on the lever. If the cable is very tight, you still need to adjust the cable tensioner out 1/8” to compensate for cable stretch (see instructions). We have had sleds out of adjustment that sound like what you are dealing with, and there is not a feel-able change from one position to the next.
Ive been riding a Ski-doo XM for two seasons with ARC and I wont ride in any technical terrain without it. Ive tested with Chris Burandt, Dan Adams, Chris Brown and more, in side by side climbing situations. The results are very conclusive and so Im convinced that if ARC is working properly it should be noticeable to you.
 
Thanks. Just found it as well. They couldn't have buried deeper on their website. Great engineers. Poor website developers and writers!

Condensed down to testing procedure:
Then place the skis on blocks and use a similar height block directly underneath the rear scissor (not the shock). This simulates an isolated load on the rear shock which is what ARC will assist. Press down on the rear a few time and then engage ARC. You should feel a noticeable change in the rear when its engaged, if not then the shock is not making it into its stiffest position.
 
Haha yeah agreed...I was trying to find info on where to start for tuning the air pressure. Finally found 50psi for stock and 100psi for boosted. Mine was shipped at 150psi, somebody must have gotten confused and just figured adding them together was good enough.
 
I put my kit on last night, same kit as above. I have one question. What is the point of putting the crimp on the cable 2 inches after the shock? Just to keep the cable from sliding into the housing in case the set screw would slip?
 
If you set it at 50 you will need to make RTS adjustments. It will be preloading at off. I have mine set at 20 if I remember right.
 
I put my kit on last night, same kit as above. I have one question. What is the point of putting the crimp on the cable 2 inches after the shock? Just to keep the cable from sliding into the housing in case the set screw would slip?

Keeps the spiral wound cable from unraveling...
 
If you set it at 50 you will need to make RTS adjustments. It will be preloading at off. I have mine set at 20 if I remember right.

The Skinz technical video below goes over suggested "sag" as part of the overall setup. I assume you set the shock air pressure and tune your shock springs from there. I haven't has the time for that step yet, but I should be able to knock it out this week. I guess I'll start with 100psi since I'm running a turbo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y2c-tkANKY
 
Haha yeah agreed...I was trying to find info on where to start for tuning the air pressure. Finally found 50psi for stock and 100psi for boosted. Mine was shipped at 150psi, somebody must have gotten confused and just figured adding them together was good enough.

Not sure where mine came in at. I let the air out before the install and pumped it after. Maybe 150psi is set by Fox?
 
Not sure where mine came in at. I let the air out before the install and pumped it after. Maybe 150psi is set by Fox?

Could be, I think they use that o ring on the shock to set sag on a bike and it's at or higher than 150 psi.
 
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