Many would disagree with me, but with the narrow stance on the Axys I find my T3 and my Axys rather similar with the exception of t-motion which I have a love hate relationship with.
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Many would disagree with me, but with the narrow stance on the Axys I find my T3 and my Axys rather similar with the exception of t-motion which I have a love hate relationship with.
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Make a video of you riding. I rode all weekend on the new Axys (163 3") and it tipped over as easy as my 2013 155" Pro did. It's almost too easy, I kept nose diving it when doing 180 deg turns.
But in all honestly make a video
How deep was the snow you were in?
Few feet, but I can lay the sled over on the trail while sitting down.. I only weight 180lbs too.
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Jaynelson
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So do you want to wheelie or steer with the skis? Cause trying to improve one will negatively impact the other. If you want to wheelie more...tighten front track shock (and possibly loosen rear track shock). If you want to have better steering with the skis (for trail I'm assuming)...you will want to loosen the front track shock for more ski pressure. The doos liked to wheelie more than the pros and I suspect the axys is somewhere in between.
If your priorities for the sled were to wheelie and take corners without understeer...there wasn't a set up for that on a pro. If sounds like you're all over the map. set the rear track shock for your weight and forget about it. Set the front ski shocks to somewhat soft, set the front track shock somewhere in the middle and take it out. Then only play with the front track shock until you like the feel. It sounds like you need more seat time more than anything.
No way I could lay it over on the trail. Maybe if I yanked on it HARD. I can make the skis come off the ground if I go back and forth on it while sitting still but thats about it. And yeah I do think I need more seat time and more snow. I want it to wheelie, thats for sure. I probably ride 70/30 70% at home and 30% in the steep and deep. My XM seemed great for that but I just decided I wanted something new and different, thats how I got the AXYS
Oh and I'm not riding this thing on trails. All the steering issues I've been having are when I take it in the "deep" stuff around my house and my trip to the white mountains the other weekend. White mountains had at most 2ft and around my house its like 18inches or so.
Oh and I'm not riding this thing on trails. All the steering issues I've been having are when I take it in the "deep" stuff around my house and my trip to the white mountains the other weekend. White mountains had at most 2ft and around my house its like 18inches or so.
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Jaynelson
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Ok no trails...then the understeer/pushing thing doesnt make sense....need to counter steer and lean to initiate a carve. Counter steer a little, pressure on your foot in the direction you want to lean, a little zap on the throttle, should be no prob? Suspension setup can fine tune the feel, and tailor to your riding style...but if you flat out can't carve the thing no way no how...it's either a rider thing, or something is broken.
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Toad face killah
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I ride a 2015 Pro and love it. But if I jump on an XM I feel like I might as well be a brand new rider. They have a totally different feel and way to ride them. I bet all you need is more time on the throttle to figure out what you need to do. I bet you're trying to hard. Take a breath and not think so much. The sled is very capable, let it do its thing. The best thing I can think of is start doing pow turns in a meadow until you feel more comfortable.
I know it took me a couple of hours to get comfortable on an XM when I did a demo ride. I didn't have any problems going from the Pro to the Cat and back but I just can't ride those Doo's.
It is impossible for me to imagine how the sled doesn't just tip over in deep snow, mine does. You also should not be yanking on the bars to lean the sled over. In the soft snow a little foot pressure and a little steering is all you need. The Axys for me is almost telepathic in its responses. I think left, it goes left. Get your feet up near the footwells, closer then you would stand on an XM. Use the bars just to keep your balance and use body weight and your legs to push the machine over while applying a bunch of throttle to drop the track. Done properly you can expect to fall clean off the first couple of times.
The big problem I see is this desire to set the sled up wrong to do something it is expressly designed NOT to do... the wheelie thing. I predict that as long as you insist on a wheelie set up, you will never get this sled to handle the way it was designed. I also fear for the rear suspension if you insist on riding around on the tail of the sled. Take a look at how they cut the rails back this year. There is a lot less strength from what I can see. Fine for the intended purpose, not good for wheelies.
You did buy the most extreme mountain sled on the market. To get to 408 lbs and work in the deep and the trees, the sled has evolved away from more traditional designs. You probably did buy the wrong machine for the riding you like to do. I know that if riding around doing wheelies was the way I wanted to ride I would have bought a turbo Yammi.
It is impossible for me to imagine how the sled doesn't just tip over in deep snow, mine does. You also should not be yanking on the bars to lean the sled over. In the soft snow a little foot pressure and a little steering is all you need. The Axys for me is almost telepathic in its responses. I think left, it goes left. Get your feet up near the footwells, closer then you would stand on an XM. Use the bars just to keep your balance and use body weight and your legs to push the machine over while applying a bunch of throttle to drop the track. Done properly you can expect to fall clean off the first couple of times.
The big problem I see is this desire to set the sled up wrong to do something it is expressly designed NOT to do... the wheelie thing. I predict that as long as you insist on a wheelie set up, you will never get this sled to handle the way it was designed. I also fear for the rear suspension if you insist on riding around on the tail of the sled. Take a look at how they cut the rails back this year. There is a lot less strength from what I can see. Fine for the intended purpose, not good for wheelies.
You did buy the most extreme mountain sled on the market. To get to 408 lbs and work in the deep and the trees, the sled has evolved away from more traditional designs. You probably did buy the wrong machine for the riding you like to do. I know that if riding around doing wheelies was the way I wanted to ride I would have bought a turbo Yammi.
