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Servicing shocks

Ok, this may be a stupid question but I have to ask it. Can the shocks on a 2004 1M be serviced (oil and nitrogen added) without removing them from the sled?
 
They have to come apart to service them. I can't even imagain someone trying to get them apart on the sled! No way. When you take them in to get them rebuilt, have the rear shocks revalved to a more progressive pace.
 
Can you explain why they can't?

Depending on the angle it may be possible to recharge with nitrogen. But most of the time no.

As far as changing oil, you want to clean the inside of the shock really well, plus some shocks have a floating piston that needs to be set.

But the biggest reason they need to be removed is air bubbles" THEY ARE YOUR ENEMY", Most good shock rebuilders work with the shock submersed in oil to avoid air bubbles.
 
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Impossible to unscrew the caps with the springs on. Impossible to get the piston out without being able to extend it far enough. As far as getting the air out, all you do is stand the shock up and heat it with a torch.
 
I personally would not heat a shock, may not be so good for the o-rings.

To really srvice the shock all new internals should be changed. For the cost of the o-rings, wear strips etc. it's worth it. If the o-rings aren't perfect water/ air gets in and the shock works like poo after a couple rides.

Other factors are piston depths etc. when re-assembling. They need to be correct or the shock won't work right. Too much oil and the shock won't stroke all the way, too little and no dampening.
 
Prices?

I'm in the market for someone to rebuild my rear shocks on my '05 1m also. What are people charging for these shocks to be recharged/rebuilt? Should I take it to a local shop who services Arctic Cat, an offroad shop who are better with suspension, or is there someone I should send them off to that will do a much better job? Any input is appreciated.
 
Had my shocks redone at Tom's Snowmobiles Sierra City Ca. Replaced most of the internals with Fox stuff (the shocks are exactly the same). he did an awsome job and in my opinion my shocks are better now then when they were new, however I hvn't rode the sled with them on yet, but they definately feel better and have better/smoother rebound.
 
Details..

Had my shocks redone at Tom's Snowmobiles Sierra City Ca. Replaced most of the internals with Fox stuff (the shocks are exactly the same). he did an awsome job and in my opinion my shocks are better now then when they were new, however I hvn't rode the sled with them on yet, but they definately feel better and have better/smoother rebound.

How much did he charge you for the work? Did you take the shocks in off the sled?
 
I took the shocks into him. prices vary depending on what he needs to replacee in he shock. If its in good shape (inside) and just a clean and recharge/change oil itslike $80.00. I wasn't so lucky my shocks wer toast so I decided to completely replace everything, new valve,shims,top end all replaced with fox parts including oil and recharge cost $160.00 He will do wht you ask but my shocks had never been worked on and had oil/water mixed inside which caused moderate damage. When he opened the first shock I almost puked the oil stunk so bad. Great guy to talk to call him and he will give you an estimate over the phone.
 
I personally would not heat a shock, may not be so good for the o-rings.

To really srvice the shock all new internals should be changed. For the cost of the o-rings, wear strips etc. it's worth it. If the o-rings aren't perfect water/ air gets in and the shock works like poo after a couple rides.

Other factors are piston depths etc. when re-assembling. They need to be correct or the shock won't work right. Too much oil and the shock won't stroke all the way, too little and no dampening.

I don't know any other way to get the bubbles out of the oil, you don't get them hot...you just heat them a little. Most places around here charge from $35 to $50 a shock for a rebuild with new seals, revalve and synthetic oil. Seems to depend on how busy they are!
 
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