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rings cupped up or down???

backcountryislife

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Ok, I've obviously had too reliable of a sled for a while now, I can't remember which way the rings go.

outside of the ring pointing down or up????

Does the R go on the right as the piston is upright?
 
weeeeelll....

Didn't need to worry about the rings.

Lost the mag rod bearing. I don't understand why one cyl. was white & the other was perfect? Pto side was the one that was white.

Anybody got a spare crank????
 
2k miles. Running 32:1 legend the whole time.

Ok, so are there specific factors that increase the chances of bearing failures in the bottom end, or is that just a either happens or it doesn't kind of thing?

Just curious if I increased my odds of this with my mods, top end was beautiful, glad I bought a cylinder, poop.
 
never had one go on a sled but I know on a dirt bike if you held it wide open to where the motor wasn't under load just kinda floating at full rpm it will take it out in no time. My crank was $700 AC special services. Or a lean condition. Thats why I have my oiler back on, you can still make a sled run fine with a lean spot and never know it.
 
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I've got a lean spot at 2/3 throttle (1290-1300 if I hold it), but I don't hold it there, I'm real careful about varying the throttle.

I don't see how long term a lean spot takes out a crank, but my top end looks great?

I've seen more rod bearings go out on stock sleds than mod sleds, so it just seems odd to me.

btw, I'm at mid 800's to 900's in the lower powerband with plugs that look normal to fat.
 
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I had a similar failure on my 2007 M1000 last weekend. The lower rod bearing went on the pto side. Looks like it sent something up into to piston which subsequently caused to piston to become jammed gouging out the cylinder. The top half of the piston was stuffed up into the cylinder head. It bent the rod and I’m assuming that occurred when the piston became jammed in the cylinder and then that caused the piston skirts to come apart. Then at that moment in time the piston skirts went through the crank. The bent rod and remaining wrist pin beat the hell out of the cylinder wall. I was running a bdx oil delete kit installed per there instructions, and was also pre-mixing ams oil at 32:1. I have a hard time believing that the rod bearing wasn’t, getting enough oil because upon inspecting the outer and inner pto bearings on the crank, they had evidence of an abundance of oil in them. I would think that the lower rod bearing would be getting sufficient oil if the inner and outer crank bearings were receiving what appears to be adequate oil? The sled had about 1900 miles on it when it grenaded. I don’t believe that the bdx oil delete caused this but can’t help but have that doubt in the back of my mind. So not real sure if it was just time for the lower rod bearing to go or what? I’m just glad that the case halves didn’t get trashed when the hundreds of pieces of piston skirt went for a field trip through crank land.
 
I had a similar failure on my 2007 M1000 last weekend. The lower rod bearing went on the pto side. Looks like it sent something up into to piston which subsequently caused to piston to become jammed gouging out the cylinder. The top half of the piston was stuffed up into the cylinder head. It bent the rod and I’m assuming that occurred when the piston became jammed in the cylinder and then that caused the piston skirts to come apart. Then at that moment in time the piston skirts went through the crank. The bent rod and remaining wrist pin beat the hell out of the cylinder wall. I was running a bdx oil delete kit installed per there instructions, and was also pre-mixing ams oil at 32:1. I have a hard time believing that the rod bearing wasn’t, getting enough oil because upon inspecting the outer and inner pto bearings on the crank, they had evidence of an abundance of oil in them. I would think that the lower rod bearing would be getting sufficient oil if the inner and outer crank bearings were receiving what appears to be adequate oil? The sled had about 1900 miles on it when it grenaded. I don’t believe that the bdx oil delete caused this but can’t help but have that doubt in the back of my mind. So not real sure if it was just time for the lower rod bearing to go or what? I’m just glad that the case halves didn’t get trashed when the hundreds of pieces of piston skirt went for a field trip through crank land.


If we were mixing lighter I might be more willing to fault this to the BDX, but I just don't see it. Also I've seen 5 stock-ish sleds lose a rod bearing as well, seems relatively common. One was as low as 1100 on a stock sled (just out of warranty of course) I'm glad mine was relatively uneventful, it just slowly stopped.



Oh sorry, we shouldn't talk like this...

I forget that we're supposed to talk about what junk they are & how I wouldn't run another one even if they sent it to me for free....

I would love to better understand the reasons behind bearing failures in motors that aren't under-oiled & what could better be done to prevent.

I'm giving serious thought to turboing this sled, but I'm not sure if I want to do a higher mile sled when things like this happen. (not that this would be all that different if I had a turbo on than not)
 
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