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revrider07

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Hi guys and gals

My hubby and I are taking over a small lodge in the big horns this winter (SnowShoe) although we are avid riders ourselves and have many ideas we are looking for a little help from you all.....
Whats the most important thing amenity you look for in a lodge?
What can we do to make our place appealing to the average rider?
How may people normally travel together when going on a trip?

Any input or advise will be appreciated greatly.....
 
lodge

stayed there 5? years ago when a couple from Europe managed it. We liked it a lot.

1. Good food at reasonable prices is always helpful for business, realizing it costs more for you to sled your supplies in
2. gas and shop available for customers is good. Had those when we stayed there
3. Cargo sled for you to help haul gear in is good since customers must sled in a few miles and all that winter gear is bulky
4. a friendly attitude toward customers always helps.
5. ability to point sledders to best snow or take them there will help them have a great time= RETURN BUSINESS.
Bob MnMtnMan
 
We intend to try to keep things as high quality as it has been in the past (but affordable) but since we will be open only during the winter we are going to try to direct it strictly to snowmobilers.......all input will be carefully considered and very much appreciated....
 
3-4 is a good number to figure on for a group. It can always go up and down.

Gas, comfortable beds, good water pressure that doesn't run out of warm water after one shower, and a kitchen (or place to eat).
 
Wife and I used to rent a cabin for an entire winter here in British Columbia in Western Canada. Things were pretty rustic but ameneties that would have been nice to have include:
-Comfy, decent quality beds.
-Electricity
-Heat
-Fireplace
-Running water.
-Hot tub if possible.
-Secure parking area for trucksand trailers.
-Lodge restaurant
-Night security watch person.
-Friendly staff and hosts.
-Lots of snow!
 
This is awesome stuff and gives us a different perspective....the lodge is quite small we do have a liquor license but no real bar area so that can be a challenge...but our experience is serious riders like a few beverages but hate the next morning after too many so that isnt what we are aiming at......good food we have covered, a simple menu but good and reasonable prices.....parking is a problem because you have to ride in...we have a heated shop for guys to work on sleds and for them to melt off in....my hubby knows the area like our own back yard.....he will ride with anyone, just for the asking.....
 
Last year me and my buds stayed in a place that had a room set up for drying out your riding gear. The owner had racks, heaters and a ventilation system, it sure was nice to have dry gear to ride in every morning!!! Beat the hell out of draping your stuff all over the baseboard heaters to dry it out.
 
Agreed with Trenchmaster on the dry gear! Another good one is a warm place to store a sled to un-thaw or work on your self! Place in Cooke City called Bearclaw bobs will do that! $10 and you can work on your sled with his tools or leave it over night to un-thaw!
 
We ride with anywhere from 3 to 7 people in our group. Our main priorities are: food, fuel, hot tub, and a good bed. Nothing else really matters, other than the riding!!

Things that wouldn't hurt:
- A small fridge in the room
- Ability to have an good, early breakfast (like to get an early start)
- Late supper (never sure when we will get back)
- Internet access (not a priority, but sometimes nice to send pics back to the rest of the guys stuck at home:D)


Good luck !! Hopefully see ya this winter!

Boone
 
Last year me and my buds stayed in a place that had a room set up for drying out your riding gear. The owner had racks, heaters and a ventilation system, it sure was nice to have dry gear to ride in every morning!!! Beat the hell out of draping your stuff all over the baseboard heaters to dry it out.

This is so true, can live with alot of things, wet gear in the morning is not .
 
First, what not to do. There was a thread about Spruce Lodge in CO, but I think it got pulled. Appears it wil be under new ownership this yr though. Good luck to them, can't wait to go back there!
Don't gouge for gas (we know it's expensive and plan to pay more, but not $0.50 more/gal than the place next door who you know has fresh gas 'cause there's a ton of sleds there).

Friendly service, not costly, but the little stuff, like don't charge me $2 for a phone call to the parts shop when I'm spending hundreds at your place.

Warm cabins, plenty of hot water is a must, otherwise I don't care how modern or fancy the place is as long as 2-3 people cantake a nice shower and the heat works. (community hot tub is a plus, but you get what you pay for when staying in the woods. I'm there to ride, if I wanted all the amenities, I'd have stayed in town at the Marriot)

If you offer food/alchohol, then offer it all the time, or at least when you say you will, not just when you feel like being open. If people come there expecting to eat breakfast or dinner in your dining room, it sucks whenyou get back from a day's riding and the place is closed for dinner without you knowing (hour drive to town).

Don't lose the keys to the liquor cabinet. ( Happened, couldn't geta drink on the night the dining room was open.)

Don't make me wait 1/2hr for you to come out and pump the gas into my sled for me (see 1st paragraph). I'm alerady paying more and don't mind if I pump it myself if you're busy, I'm standing out there anyway and I can read the pump. I'm not gonna cheat you on a gallon of gas. I'm staying there already and you can go look later if you think I cheated.
DOn't ask me to fire up my diesel truck 3 different times to move it so the XC skiiers can park next to the door of their cabin. Mine's 100' from my cabin, you told me to park there, and yes, I have a truck and trailer. I didn't get the sleds up here on top of my Hyundai!
Oh and don't b!tch when you can smell diesel exhaust in the lobby. Again you told me to park there, it's -20F out and I have to drive an hour for dinner beuase you weren't serving tonight. Didn't see it in the brochure.


Soooo, I know this is a bunch of whinin', but this place was a perfect example of how not to run a lodge.
Bottom line what I ould look for is, doesn't need to be fancy (price dependent of course). Good food with large portions (can only be 2 or 3 items on the menu 'cause it's tough to stock a restaurant in the boonies, as long as it's GOOD). Warm cabins w/ plenty of hooks to hang gear. Fireplace or woodstove a plus just for the ambiance. Gas, premium, for sleds. Host (ess) knowledge of area with good reccomendations for newcomers to the area, and good rapor with the local sled dealers so they have good parts availability with commonly bent/broke parts.
And someone mentioned a shop to work on your machine. That would be key. I have an enclosed trlr now, but anyone with an open trlr will get your business for life when they come back in with a twisted up front susp, it's cold and snowin', and you say "pull it around back into the garage, you cna work on it there, just clean up and turn the lights off."

Last thing is advertising. The locals could know you have the best place WY, but you need the tourist business to keep the place full all winter.

Good luck!
 
Looks to me like your on the right track already...ask what folks want and try hard to deliver. Good luck in what sounds like an exciting gig for you!
 
A few suggestions I have:
1. Don't just offer gas. Have fresh, clean, PREMIUM octane fuel. That is what sleds need nowdays. Have some good 2 stroke oil for sale also, possibly some popular spark plugs too.
2. A warm shop to work on a broken sled in the evening is sweet! Some basic sled tooling would be really cool!
3. Remember that people come to your resort to get away from the stress of their everyday lives. Make sure the staff has a good fun attitude so the guests feel no more stress.
4. Offer good maps of the riding area as many will not be familiar.
5. Have a secure place to park sleds at night, even an outdoor locked fenced area would work. Sleds cost like $12k+!
6. Sledders come back tired and starving, be ready with prompt service on the food. Even a basket of rolls or bread/butter when they first sit down to eat will ease the hunger pains and let them relax.
7. A drying room for gear is a nice feature.
8. Guests are picky about hot showers and comfortable beds.

Good luck,

Wayne
 
Be fair with people. This BS about "priced to what the market will bear". Be fair build a repeat biz.
 
Customer Service, Customer Service, Customer Service. Owners and managers do not put enough effort in to it anymore.

Free high speed internet, as most of us are still trying to do business and keep up with family back home.

Hot tubs are great after a hard day.

Lots of hot water and good shower pressure.

Satelite TV to watch catch up on NASCAR in the evenings.

Best of luck.
 
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