Rev 800 144 vs Poo 700 155

[Bubba700]

So I got into a bit of a discusion last night with a riding buddy/roomate about performance. He was trying to tell me that Performance wise that the 144 rev would out perform and go more places than my poo 700. Since the 144 is a 16 and the 155 is only 15 wide tracks that the footprint is the same. I can see where he is coming from, but I also rode with 144 600 rev a mo ago and that thing was getting stuck on the trail. So Im looking for some opinions from guys who have experience on both setups. No brand bashing just real world experience.

On a side note he is basing this claim not on real world experience just that cause he heard that a well know Rexburg Native rode a 144 instead of the 151 last year.

 

[Hoody]

If you are getting a 144 by 16 stuck all the time and on the trail, you are a ****ty rider man.

 

[jhurkot]

i'd put my money on the polaris. put in lines with that sled that the 07 159's had to poach just to get to where i was going.

 

[milehighassassin]

Depending on the set-up my money will go to the better rider.

The Poo 700 Dragon has great power, it runs with the 800 REV.

I have a Rev 144 800 and my bro has a Poo 700 155 (dragon). That extra track really helps when it is deep.
The 16" wide track helps but do the math and you will see that the 155 still has more contact.

16 x 144= 2304

15 x 155= 2325

Ultimately my bet goes with the Polaris. Less weight definetly helps it out.

 

[Bubba700]

If you are getting a 144 by 16 stuck all the time and on the trail, you are a ****ty rider man.

It was a guy that was on a rental who hadn't rode in a few years. FWIW though it was right after Christmas and we had gotten over 5ft in a week so back where we were riding it even the trails weren't exactly packed. I hoped on it a few times and I had to ride it much harder than my dragon to keep it from getting stuck. I should note the 144 Doo was the 600 so it may be much dif. with the 800. Thats why I am asking Thanks bubba

 

[trench]

Ride with lots of rev's all the time in deep day's , Have the 07 700 155
Dragon . Mostly the dragon does alittle better than all the older rev's, the newer one's with the R motor and good rider is very comparable.
As for the 600 rev's way under powered, and do get stuck everywhere.
Track's mean nothing if you can't turn it.
The 800 rev is a huge difference.

 

[xc800spmatt]

700 155" for sure. Lot more reliable to.

 

[Jaynelson]

It would absolutely be a rider's contest. The pol with the longer track would be a little more forgiving in the fluff, IMO. You will go a LOT of places in the mountains on either one.

An 800R rev with a 144 would be a helluva fun sled tho. Anything resembling more setup snow and my money would be on it if we're talking races....wheelieing it's way up the hill LOL.

If I were picking between the 2, I'd choose the chassis you prefer and not look back.

 

[LRB]

its all in the set up and in the rider i have an rev 800 144 and it amazes people i ride with a iq 600 155 and that guys goes some really amazing places but you put not so good rider on a 162 we both out climb them all day !
LRB

 

[khaddon2110]

700 155" for sure. Lot more reliable to.

And your basing this reliability on ..?



I have a 600 SDI 144 that has had some pretty good abuse and hard riding, and maybe I got a good one, but I have only put gas and oil in it from new. Have had to touch nothing but those two caps. Belt looks like the brand new spare and has just under 2k on it.

I dont have experience with the 700 155, and it might be very reliable, but a lot more? I don't think so. But maybe

 

[85jnater]

The dragon will out perform the Rev. I ride with 2 guys that both have Revs and that are alot more experianced, and I seem to come out ahead.

 

[XC700116]

And your basing this reliability on ..?



I have a 600 SDI 144 that has had some pretty good abuse and hard riding, and maybe I got a good one, but I have only put gas and oil in it from new. Have had to touch nothing but those two caps. Belt looks like the brand new spare and has just under 2k on it.

I dont have experience with the 700 155, and it might be very reliable, but a lot more? I don't think so. But maybe

I'm not trying to start a Pi$$ing match here but the 800 rev's (especially the R's) have some serious motor reliability issues. I haven't heard of any major motor failures on the new 700 Poos excluding the operator induced ones normally involving nitrous or turbos. just my .02 on that subject.

Last winter I rode with both an 06 summit 800 144 and an 07 Dragon 121 extended to 144. It was pretty much a dead heat in anywhere but a drag race on the flat. In that case the Dragon was putting a stomping on pretty much everything we had with. (2 XC700's, 2 Rev 800's, a CF 700, and the Dragon) by the way this was before my XC's makeover. Both XC's were pretty stock one with a 144 and mine with 141.

 

[khaddon2110]

I'm not trying to start a Pi$$ing match here but the 800 rev's (especially the R's) have some serious motor reliability issues. I haven't heard of any major motor failures on the new 700 Poos excluding the operator induced ones normally involving nitrous or turbos. just my .02 on that subject.

Last winter I rode with both an 06 summit 800 144 and an 07 Dragon 121 extended to 144. It was pretty much a dead heat in anywhere but a drag race on the flat. In that case the Dragon was putting a stomping on pretty much everything we had with. (2 XC700's, 2 Rev 800's, a CF 700, and the Dragon) by the way this was before my XC's makeover. Both XC's were pretty stock one with a 144 and mine with 141.

I'll agree with you on that. It seems all the 800's from each brand are having more reliability issues than anyone wants to see. But, in comparing the 600 to the 700. The 600 SDI machines have to be some of the most trouble free machines out there IMO.

 

[CATillak]

what reliability issues has the M8 had? and iv got an 05 800 summit, no problems at all, and the only other guy i know on a rev 8 has a 144 and it goes a lot of places it shouldnt lol. the rev 8 is an awesome sled. too bad brp sells a lot of lemons, cuz when they get it right, its right..

 

[keithm907]

An 800r 144 Rev would spank a 155 700 RMK. Plus the Rev is more fun to ride.

 

[sleddinhusker]

From what I have seen, I would say the 700 155" would out do an 800r 144". Here is my basis. I ride with a 07 700 155" Dragon and an 07 800r Xrs 151", both great running sleds. Now I haven't ridden with a 144", too short for our group. But, when these two compete on the climbs, the 151" always gets the Dragon, but not by as much as we thought it would be. Both are very experienced riders, pretty much equal in ability I would say. The 700 is a great sled, and I was really surprised to see how well it did against the 800s. We really tested them last weekend against each other on some climbs with decent powder. So after comparing how those two sleds went after each other, I would say the dragon would be right there with a 144" if not above it.

Just based off what I've seen.

 

[daveteri]

I have all doos the latest is a 163 XP.

They took a 700 dragon motor and the 800 dragon motor on the dino in marysville Utah and found only 4 hp difference in the two. These were both new 08's. At thousands less why would and poo guy buy the 800. I was climbing with a 700 at fairview saturday and was really impressed. Put a turbo on it and watch out. They do seem to trench though. If I were to buy a new poo it would be the 700.

 

[markoo]

foot print

How much of you track is actually in the snow- about 40% I'm guessing. so
155 x.40 x 15= 930sq. in. of footprint
144 x .40 x 16= 921 sq. in. of footprint
seems pretty even to me

 

[JJD]

maybe the snow is slightly different up here in canada but the 700 poos dont keep up to the revs. My group has everything and I really like the dragons but plain and simple they don't seem to have the jam when you really need it. Lots of days the two 800 144 revs out do the 151's. Not really sure why but they do (this is in the fluff aswell no packed conditions). But i do think poo is on the right track and if they can put some bigger proven power plants they will be right back in the hunt. just my .02

 

[IceCap]

Polaris tracks just work better period!