I know some on here are buying a new sled every season or at least every other season. So, how much does resale value factor into your decision to buy a new sled? In the West, do you see resale biased toward a particular brand?
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In the West. Not that I’ve seen.
More brand bias than a resale advantage. I’d say Polaris has easiest quick sale potential at a reasonable price. Ski doo has the highest resale if you find that special someone that wants it. And Arctic cat is in the middle. But looking like they may be more wanted after the last couple
Years.
More brand bias than a resale advantage. I’d say Polaris has easiest quick sale potential at a reasonable price. Ski doo has the highest resale if you find that special someone that wants it. And Arctic cat is in the middle. But looking like they may be more wanted after the last couple
Years.
resale matters to me and i'm sitting on a 2017 axys now, trying to decide to sell this year or next. i'd like to go cat but don't want to take it in the shorts on resale. i'm able to do more "wrong activities" by making smart decisions on the front end.
So you made a. “smart decision” by buying a 2017 axys that your not happy with obviously. And NOW your wondering what sled to buy next to help you recoup your loss?
Really not sure why or what your asking beings you Already own a 2017 axys. Obviously you think another sled is better than the axys at this point.
At any point next years model on any sled could make your sled now look like a pile of dookie!!
So like I said before. If your buying sleds based on “RESALE VALUE” your going to be very disappointed!! All snowmobile sales prices aren’t static, They fluctuate with the seasons, snowfall and what people actually sell their sleds for on this web site or face book and Craigslist.
If you really want to be disappointed. PM every person selling a sled like yours. Ask them what they actually took for it. It’s gunna be depressing.
the sled is a blast to ride but i've worked on enough polaris sleds to know they don't last as long as other brands. when i guided on sleds we sold a portion of the fleet at 1 year and the rest at 2 years. this allowed us to rotate the fleet, save money on repairs and lose less money in the long run. this particular sled has a small issue that always reminds me of its reliability shelf life. it has the best chassis out there for my needs but i've never trusted a polaris sled engine. i ride solo on occasion and really want it to get me back home each trip.
so, i'd like to get back to rotating my sleds more frequently and possibly trade some powder handling for reliability. if i can sell every two years and not lose my shorts then i'd prefer to do that.
so, i'd like to get back to rotating my sleds more frequently and possibly trade some powder handling for reliability. if i can sell every two years and not lose my shorts then i'd prefer to do that.
It’s a crap shoot right now if you don’t trust your Polaris motor.
Cats on its first year with the new engine.
Skidoo is still having odd motor failures AND appears to be having belt issues AGAIN.
A lot more goes into “snowmobile reliability” than just a motor.
I’ve pulled more sleds out with problems not engine related.
blown chain cases(arctic cat),
blown belts and didn’t have a 3rd spare(skidoo),
stabbed track(arctic cat)
I know guys that spent more money on belts in a season than I spent on all the maintenance on my turbo PRO, including gas, oil, a belt... it’s crazy.
Cats on its first year with the new engine.
Skidoo is still having odd motor failures AND appears to be having belt issues AGAIN.
A lot more goes into “snowmobile reliability” than just a motor.
I’ve pulled more sleds out with problems not engine related.
blown chain cases(arctic cat),
blown belts and didn’t have a 3rd spare(skidoo),
stabbed track(arctic cat)
I know guys that spent more money on belts in a season than I spent on all the maintenance on my turbo PRO, including gas, oil, a belt... it’s crazy.
never seen one pull the rope and go every day without it's fair share of problems.It’s a crap shoot right now if you don’t trust your Polaris motor. and why would you!!
Cats on its first year with the new engine. not many problems yet but Joe public can fawk up an anvil in a sand box
Skidoo is still having odd motor failures AND appears to be having belt issues AGAIN. hit and miss on each
A lot more goes into “snowmobile reliability” than just a motor. only if you ride polaris
I’ve pulled more sleds out with problems not engine related. LMFAO I too have budds with no maintenance programs
blown chain cases(arctic cat), years specific and yes they did fix this later
blown belts and didn’t have a 3rd spare(skidoo),
stabbed track(arctic cat) not many after 08
I know guys that spent more money on belts in a season than I spent on all the maintenance on my turbo PRO, including gas, oil, a belt... it’s crazy.
so in a nutshell your lines are all bull$hit.
Here's something one of the brands could do to get an advantage over the others regarding resale.....
Let's use Doo for the example.
If Doo dealers would have a warranty to offer on their late model trade ins, it would make it easier to obtain financing to buy.
They would need to thoroughly inspect machines to certify condition.
Dealers could even use this inspection to determine trade value or even to decline taking in on trade.
Having Doo as an administrator of program takes the monkey off of the dealer's backs on what's covered and sharing in absorbing costs.
The reward is added value to late model trade in inventory. If this added value increases the number of used sleds sold, that certainly helps sell new sleds.
There's certainly alot of headaches with a program like this, but I think some dealers would appreciate having that sales tool.
Let's use Doo for the example.
If Doo dealers would have a warranty to offer on their late model trade ins, it would make it easier to obtain financing to buy.
They would need to thoroughly inspect machines to certify condition.
Dealers could even use this inspection to determine trade value or even to decline taking in on trade.
Having Doo as an administrator of program takes the monkey off of the dealer's backs on what's covered and sharing in absorbing costs.
The reward is added value to late model trade in inventory. If this added value increases the number of used sleds sold, that certainly helps sell new sleds.
There's certainly alot of headaches with a program like this, but I think some dealers would appreciate having that sales tool.
Just basically assume you are going to get raped on resale. These sleds have a very short lifespan so the value of a sled with over 2k miles is basically NIL. I try and cycle sleds out at about 1500 miles before the wear and tear on the chassis/plastic starts to get out of hand.
I go through 1-2 sleds a year right now and its sad what I have to do to get rid of them.
I can't sell my 2017 axys with a turbo and other mods (1300 miles) for $10k. Blows my mind.
I go through 1-2 sleds a year right now and its sad what I have to do to get rid of them.
I can't sell my 2017 axys with a turbo and other mods (1300 miles) for $10k. Blows my mind.
Once the OEM's started giving us "mod" sleds right out of the crate.... these things dont last long at all. The entire sled wears out VERY fast.
Remember when a rear skid weighed about 70 lbs.... now they weigh about 40 lbs. You dont get bearings and bushings in shocks and shafts anymore. Aluminum and plastic has replaced all the steel and bearings.
Dont get me wrong.... I love a 400lb sled, but all the weight removed and HP added has made these things into a 2yr / 2,000 mile lifespan.
Sure you can replace all the worn parts, rebuild the engine/clutches/suspension/steering.... But by the time you do, you might as well buy a new sled.
I havent kept a sled for more then 2 seasons since I switched from yamaha to Polaris in 2012. I sure dont miss the weight of those 4 strokes, but I do miss the quality. My last yamaha was 6yrs old with 8,000 miles on it when I sold it and the boosted engine had 1-2% leak down! lol
Remember when a rear skid weighed about 70 lbs.... now they weigh about 40 lbs. You dont get bearings and bushings in shocks and shafts anymore. Aluminum and plastic has replaced all the steel and bearings.
Dont get me wrong.... I love a 400lb sled, but all the weight removed and HP added has made these things into a 2yr / 2,000 mile lifespan.
Sure you can replace all the worn parts, rebuild the engine/clutches/suspension/steering.... But by the time you do, you might as well buy a new sled.
I havent kept a sled for more then 2 seasons since I switched from yamaha to Polaris in 2012. I sure dont miss the weight of those 4 strokes, but I do miss the quality. My last yamaha was 6yrs old with 8,000 miles on it when I sold it and the boosted engine had 1-2% leak down! lol
Here's my 2¢
Take the Axys 2017 sled for example.
Good purchase price on it would have been, say $13K out the door.
That sled with reasonable mileage has shown a resale value this season of about $10k.
The 2016's have shown a resale of about $9K.
So, loosing $4k over 2 years... about 30%.... I'd consider that acceptable...
I don't think that you'll be able to do much better on any of the used units regardless of brand.
If you sell your sled during the height of it's depreciation period... the first two years... you will take a big 'hit'.
For those that I know that get a new sled every year... and it makes sense to them... they ride it for 3500 miles or so... then sell it or trade it in and get a new one and accept the $3000 cost as the cost to own/ride a sled for 3500 miles.
For me, that makes sense.
Many, however, will take 5 years to put on that kind of mileage... so, IMO, it makes no sense to move on to another unless you are loaded with cash and you can afford to have the latest/greatest.
In our sled world... a 5 year old mountain sled is "OLD".... Think of a 2013 SkiDoo/Polaris/Cat... Do you think of that as "OLD" when talking about mountain sleds these days... Most that I talk to do.
One brand or the other will have an advantage in resale... often based on location, dealer networks available, number of used units on the market etc.
I've really not seen a durability issue with the Axys sleds other than wear on the track and some small electrical issues that are known.... I've seen the same % of issues, relatively, on all brands.
All sled brands these days offer a stellar mountain sled IMO... and all have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Take the Axys 2017 sled for example.
Good purchase price on it would have been, say $13K out the door.
That sled with reasonable mileage has shown a resale value this season of about $10k.
The 2016's have shown a resale of about $9K.
So, loosing $4k over 2 years... about 30%.... I'd consider that acceptable...
I don't think that you'll be able to do much better on any of the used units regardless of brand.
If you sell your sled during the height of it's depreciation period... the first two years... you will take a big 'hit'.
For those that I know that get a new sled every year... and it makes sense to them... they ride it for 3500 miles or so... then sell it or trade it in and get a new one and accept the $3000 cost as the cost to own/ride a sled for 3500 miles.
For me, that makes sense.
Many, however, will take 5 years to put on that kind of mileage... so, IMO, it makes no sense to move on to another unless you are loaded with cash and you can afford to have the latest/greatest.
In our sled world... a 5 year old mountain sled is "OLD".... Think of a 2013 SkiDoo/Polaris/Cat... Do you think of that as "OLD" when talking about mountain sleds these days... Most that I talk to do.
One brand or the other will have an advantage in resale... often based on location, dealer networks available, number of used units on the market etc.
I've really not seen a durability issue with the Axys sleds other than wear on the track and some small electrical issues that are known.... I've seen the same % of issues, relatively, on all brands.
All sled brands these days offer a stellar mountain sled IMO... and all have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Turbo'd sleds are hard to sell for sure..
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They are easy to sale. Buy high and sell low. Works like a charm. Never get stuck with one.
HAHA, right, as long as your OK with the reality of it, they go away. I just cannot believe what you ahve to give a boosted one away for. More like buy high donate to good will.
I would jump on that deal all day long.
On a GOOD year, we might get 500 miles and I don't know of a dealer that would trade for $3K even with low miles.
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