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Real Life Example: Airbag vs Beacon

If you read the story, you will notice that he wad UNABLE TO TRIGGER HIS AIRBAG!!! but his wife was able to trigger hers. All of the clients on that trip had airbags. How does this make an airbag better then a beacon?? At least they were able to find him with the beacon, and if they were all experienced skiers instead of one guide and five clients they might have been quick enough that he might have had a chance.

Dont use news like this to try to sell more airbags. There was just a death in BC a couple days ago in which the victim was able to trigger his airbag but was still buried. He was found with a probe 20 mins later. Report can be viewed at http://www.avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/incident-reports/view.

Airbags are a great tool, I wear mine every day, but they are not the be all end all to avalanche safety. Proper training is, and by proper I dont mean an evening "avalanche seminar" in Wisconsin. I mean an AST 1 AND AST 2 for those in Canada and an AVY 2 at least for those in the states.

If you read the link above you will notice that the first guy triggered the slide on the second as they were both climbing a bowl. If they had had a clue and rode one at a time they wouldnt have needed an airbag or a beacon.
 
I agree. Proper training is ESSENTIAL and an Airbag is definitely not a license to "do whatever you want". It seems in both cases (the link I posted and the link you posted) that mistakes were made that put more than one person in jeopardy at a time.

Beacons and Airbags are simply tools to help out once a mistake has already been made.
 
If you read the story, you will notice that he wad UNABLE TO TRIGGER HIS AIRBAG!!! but his wife was able to trigger hers. All of the clients on that trip had airbags. How does this make an airbag better then a beacon??


Who here is putting an airbag as being "better" than a beacon? The airbag gives you a POSSIBILITY of it saving you instead of hoping that someone else saves you later. but nobody is saying not to wear a beacon because you have a bag.

As to him not pulling... do you REALLY think that every person who straps a bag on has the presence of mind to pull it when the SH** goes down??? HELL NO!

Take into account that they were custy's on that trip, and the bags were not theirs, so I doubt it was something that they practiced like most of us practice reaching for our triggers (for a guy who talks about the importance of practice... I'd think you'd see that factor) so I'm not terribly surprised that one pulled & one didn't. What does surprise me is that guides still allow more than one person to be in danger on a slope.


I hope SBD DOES use stories like this to sell more bags & increase the awareness that this is one more tool that CAN, not guaranteed WILL, save you when every other mistake has been made. More bags sold = more chances that a friend won't be the guy that we see dead on the news.

It's not a be all end all, it's another tool in our quiver.

As to the story you posted... there's no guarantees in this game, nothing but you can prevent the worst from happening. For all we know, that guy could have pulled right before it stopped & there wasn't time for it to bring him up... who knows.
 
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