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ramp grinding

Thought I would post my results from grinding my 415's.

It is easier than I expected using a bench grinder, dremel, and sander.

I used one of the pins that hold the ramps in to pin the 3 together, clamped them, then used the bench grinder to take off some metal. I used a sharpie to make a sweeping s curve starting at the bottom and finishing about 1/8-1/4" under the top of the ramp. After grinding them together with the bench grinder, I switch ramps (outside to middle, left to right) a few times and used the dremel for the rest so I could make sure they were all equal. Finished them off with sanding for a fine finish.

I wanted a lower engagement, to get a little more track speed at lower rpm's for boon'in, and get a faster upshift. I also wanted to steepen the finish ramp up to increase my WOT rpm's so I could ride in clicker 3 instead of 4-5. Here is my results from 2 days of deep powder testing.

Started on clicker 1 on the trail up. Parked around 1400 feet and rode trail up to 4300. Engagement is around 3800 (used to be about 4500) and I was doing 40mph at 6000rpm and 45mph at 6500 (uphill). Once in the deep (dry baseless over the hood), I found that it still wanted to clicker up to 4 or 5 but it sure ripped. Held very steady rpm's and I never got the drop off after WOT runs. I wasn't doing any long, long climbs though, mostly boon'in but I did make a few 45 second runs. I sharpied both clutches and the primary is shifting out to within 1/2"-3/4" of the outside and the secondary seems to be shifting in almost all of the way. I think it definitely upshifts faster and I like the crawlability better. I have Big John's secondary kit so it has always had amazing backshift but now it has both. Can't ask for much more than that.

I reground the ramps again tonight to take off just a little more after checking and cleaning the clutches to make sure everything was ok. I will report after I ride again.

I am running full pins with a black 185/410 primary, ducks floating seconary, and BJ's secondary kit.
 
Thought I would post a follow up to this....after the second grinding, I had the sled out for two days. 1st day was in very deep (39" new), lite, dry snow and then again today in very deep (another foot new) but thicker snow. The first day I rode in clicker 4 with a new belt and it worked really well. Held rpm's steady at 8200-8300 for 2-3 minutes at a time. Had to keep the intakes clear but other than that it was perfect.

Today, because the snow was thicker and wetter, I clickered up to 5 thinking I would need a few extra rpm's. However, even though the snow was much thicker it was over-revving and I actually had to clicker back down to 4. I didn't bother dropping back to 1 for the trail ride but in clicker 4 I was hitting about 35mph on the trail at 6000rpm's and 40mph at 6500rpm's.

I really like the upshift of the more aggressive ramp profile. It got me out of trouble a few times where I normally would have gotten buried. I do think I can get some more track speed out of it though as I am only seeing 44-45mph in bottomless snow but the seat of the pants-o-meter says its going good. I plan on adding 2mm oversized rollers and then pulling a little bit of pin weight to get a little more belt squeze and I may go back to stock gearing.

I'm pooped.

Rt
 
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