pro ride rear suspension

[tinkerjohnson]

i am looking for info or opinions on the rear suspension on a pro. can you make the stock skid work with different shocks or revalved stock shocks or is it the whole skid, this thing is ruff and rigid feeling especially on the trail in the rollers it feels solid and hits really hard on every bump i have tried adjusting it but it just dont work its a slightly modded sled and i weigh 195 any ideas out there whats the best bang for my buck

 

[wellfed777]

not sure about the best bang for the bucks
but i really liked my holtz fox skid package big improvment it takes some fine tunning but you can set it up for your type of riding
i think the only cheaper option is revalve stockers but i've heard mix reviews on that

raptors or exits would probably be some of the best options but more bucks
good luck

 

[cokecrazed007]

I'm trying just springs from raptor this year. The springs were quite cheap and a great product.

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[RPS]

Raptor TRS

Tinker,
Great question, it really comes down to what you feel your budget is the nice thing is you have several different options with different price points. One you can have your shocks rebuilt-revalved this can be a bit of a crapshoot and with mono tube (non-adjustable) shocks you might be real tired of sending these shocks back to whoever you choose to revalve them before they get it right. Two you can buy a set of springs from us for $280 (all four) that will not only soften up the initial 2/3 of the stroke but will stiffen the last 1/3 of the stroke giving you the best of both worlds (see attached graph). Third you can purchase a full blown shock package be it from us or the others on the market (NO AIRSHOCKS) key thing here is you want stellar range of adjustability so you can adjust for your liking this kit from us is $2100.00 and comes with 20 position piggyback clickers on all four shocks and the same spring kit mentioned above. Last but not least a full blown Kmod performance package ($3500) these packages are amazing in a Pro Rmk (I have one) and the coolest thing about this skid is how compliant the ride can be if your just riding along (JRA) and within two minutes you can have this thing set up to jump Volkswagens the rest of the day!
Give us a call and I can explain in better detail all of these options.
Thanks, RPS

 

[tdorval]

RPS why the no air shocks comment in ()? Just curious why you think something like the float evol r's aren't a decent option.

 

[429dhm]

I don’t understand why air shocks are getting bashed hard this and last year. On the older IQ raw chassis they were getting a tonnes of positive reviews. Air Shocks cannot be that bad the since new 2013 CRF450 and KX450F are equipped with them and yes a bike is different from a sled.

 

[Keith517]

I have an assault, the shocks were re-valved by Carl's, they put fox internals in the shocks and it rides really well. My dad has Fox shocks on his and it rides well too. It has a Zero Pro on the front track shock and the Evo R on the rear track shock. You can get this package from Carl's or Holz. The air shocks get a bad rep and i think most of it comes from the float and float2 shock (Still good shocks but not a super smooth ride). If you go with the evolR or evolX you will have a fantastic shock, as mentioned above, motocross bikes are going to air in there forks, also they have been using evolX shocks for years in snocross.
As far as a new rear skid goes, Holz does not make a skid for the Pro, I was told it was because there is no real weigh benefit or ride benefit over the Pro suspension, again they do sell the Fox shock package that helps out the ride. I have used the EZ-ride and it is, in my opinion, the best suspension made for a smooth ride. I have not owned a mtn tamer, or K-mod so i cant really comment on those (I have ridden sleds with the mtn tamer but not enough to give a good comparison).

 

[LoudHandle]

There is a lack of consistentcey with air shocks, as you ride the shock warms up. If you remember anything from highschool as a gas gets hot it expands, when this happens the pressure rises, resulting in a harsher ride. A lot of you who swear by air shocks are the same ones who are screwing with your pump while the rest of us are riding. It is your choice but if you want to ride get a good coilover setup, if your chicken and need an excuse to avoid the big stuff, buy air shocks so you can screw with your shocks instead. My $0.02 out.

 

[CO 2.0]

I've had Fox Evol R's on a Pro RMK, Proclimb, M8, and M1000. While they are a MUCH better shock than the standard floats, they do not come close to the Raptors IMO. I now have raptors on my M8 and Pro RMK. Amazing shocks. Worth the extra weight added over the air shocks. I did a Kmod and Raptors to my M8 this past winter. Only decided to do the Raptors and stock skid on my pro rmk. I do feel/see the downfalls of this stock skid after riding a coupled skid. I do feel the Raptors accel the stock skid and front suspension by two fold over the stock Walker Evans. No longer getting bucked through rutted out trenches, and whoops getting back to the pow, makes this sled a dream. Although I bet it would be nicer with a Kmod or Timbersled underneith it.

 

[druchti]

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=VSp6k6kG1pk this is a pretty good vid that explains air shocks ..worth watching ..there is not any less oil in an air shock and there is still nitrogen in them from my understanding ur just replacing the coil spring with air

 

[gman086]

I consider myself somewhat of a qualified suspension critic and can tell you that you can get a nicer ride with just adding better shocks BUT... the stock skid (a Holz type design) has some serious limitations if you're a seasoned mogul masher. You really need some coupling and that is where the Mt Tamer and KMod designs shine over stock. So... it really comes down to how much you want to spend. I'll probably work with Tom Dines this year for my setup and I am a believer in air shocks (he developed the Evol system for Fox) and fade is NOT an issue with a properly set up Evol! I used Burandt's setup last year and the fronts were amazing. Going to a coupled skid this year for sure tho!

Have FUN!

G MAN

 

[tube]

What does a kmod skid weigh? What does the stock pro 163 skid weigh?

Thx

 

[AndrettiDog]

I too thought that the stock suspension just didn't cut it. bottoming out on small hits and bumps in the road. So many people mentioned revalving the stock shocks but I felt they were too far off for that approach.

I went with Exit X1's on the front and back. Probably some overkill but for the price I thought I'd try it. Amazing how much better the sled behaves. It dares you to hit stuff knowing that you have that suspension underneath.

 

[Seabass152]

Tinker,
Great question, it really comes down to what you feel your budget is the nice thing is you have several different options with different price points. One you can have your shocks rebuilt-revalved this can be a bit of a crapshoot and with mono tube (non-adjustable) shocks you might be real tired of sending these shocks back to whoever you choose to revalve them before they get it right. Two you can buy a set of springs from us for $280 (all four) that will not only soften up the initial 2/3 of the stroke but will stiffen the last 1/3 of the stroke giving you the best of both worlds (see attached graph). Third you can purchase a full blown shock package be it from us or the others on the market (NO AIRSHOCKS) key thing here is you want stellar range of adjustability so you can adjust for your liking this kit from us is $2100.00 and comes with 20 position piggyback clickers on all four shocks and the same spring kit mentioned above. Last but not least a full blown Kmod performance package ($3500) these packages are amazing in a Pro Rmk (I have one) and the coolest thing about this skid is how compliant the ride can be if your just riding along (JRA) and within two minutes you can have this thing set up to jump Volkswagens the rest of the day!
Give us a call and I can explain in better detail all of these options.
Thanks, RPS

RPS,
Can you give us some explanation on your airshock statment? No doubt this got a few people's attention. Thanks

 

[Seabass152]

There is a lack of consistentcey with air shocks, as you ride the shock warms up. If you remember anything from highschool as a gas gets hot it expands, when this happens the pressure rises, resulting in a harsher ride. A lot of you who swear by air shocks are the same ones who are screwing with your pump while the rest of us are riding. It is your choice but if you want to ride get a good coilover setup, if your chicken and need an excuse to avoid the big stuff, buy air shocks so you can screw with your shocks instead. My $0.02 out.

You yourself experienced this inconsistency that you talk about? Was this on a whooped out trail or while riding the big stuff? Which shock? Hard pressed to find too many on here(including myself) that could normally notice this change in shock performance especially given all the other variables. Air shocks still seem pretty popular in the snocross crowd and I would bet they generate more heat than you and certainly more than the rest of us chickens

I know the anti Fox trend that's been around for the last 9 months or so still has some legs to it before it turns to something else, but give the OP something useful. The other posters give some actual reviews/comparisons and not just beating their chest.

I guess the argument could also be made that while the dude with the new coil shocks sit around waiting for his shocks to come back after the 2nd or 3rd revalve to get them right, the guys screwing with their pump can keep on riding the small stuff.

 

[Seabass152]

RPS,
Can you give us some explanation on your airshock statment? No doubt this got a few people's attention. Thanks

I was checking back on this to see if I had missed a response, but it looks like I didn't. I thought it was a irresponsible comment for a vendor to make not only to those that have already spent their money on Fox shocks but to the other guys that sell them. Even more so without some tech information to back it up?