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Power CommanderV. Anyone with some time on one on a M1000?

I was wondering if anyone has the PCV with Autotune figured out for a ported & piped 07 M1000? Any seat time with one yet? Sorry if this is a repeat post. If you would be so nice to post a link to one if there is, that would be great.
 
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Have a lot of hours on one. The maps I am doing are all for the 2009 update. If you have a 2007 or 2009 with the update I should have a map.
 
I thought one of the ideas with the pcV was that it (to a majority extent) created it's own map. Am I that far off on this?
 
X2 That is what I thought all the talk was about on the power commander v .
 
does anybody have any amount of time with the pc5 with auto tune? if so is it as good as it sounds or are there anything one sould know,thinking about this system for 09 m1000
 
backcountry: The honest short answer is NO.

Autotune is a great tuning device. I look at it like an EGT or an A/F gauge more or less. You can not just plug everything in and go riding and have it build you a map. You sit down and create a good basemap, test it, revise it, test it, revise it, test it, revise it, then hook the auto tune up and FINE TUNE it. It looks at your recommended air fuel ratios and your base map and makes adjustments as it sees you need them. THEN..... I go back and rewrite the bottom end of the map, save it and run it.

The reason I rewrite the bottom end is that with autotune it asks for more fuel than you need. For example on auto tune I do a short burst throttle practice that allows me to make sure I have no bogs. Cruising along and SLAM the flipper to the bars. ...... When you do this, autotune looks at the fuel and at that rapid an accelleration, calls for a lot of fuel.

For example with autotune I usually get my 3500-4000 fuel numbers somewhere in the 30s.

The numbers acutally need to be in the 6-10 range to be correct. Also at an idle it seems to want to idle high under autotune, which is probably because at lower rpms I like to call for 15-16:1 air fuel ratios, which are lean.

Autotune is a great tool if you are switching between sleds and setups often or like myself, trying to tune for various setups and pipe configurations. Once you are happy with your map, the autotune becomes usless in everyday riding conditions.

Hope this helps, I feel like I took the long way around!:D
 
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I have been running power commander with auto tune on my 07 1000 with ported cylinders . Working good runs smooth , I stared with base map i came up on my own becouse nobody sells one or people that say they do never return phone calls. pieguy pm your email and i will send you my map too look at then you could auto tune your sled from there i sure different port jobs and pipe will run a little diff.
 
- Not trying to hijack the thread here.

So Racinstation if I was to order the PC from you with your map loaded, would I get the III or the V? Also, would I fine-tune on a computer back home or on the mountain? Sorry for the questions, just not real familiar with it. Thanks!

Aaron
 
I could sell you either 3 or 5. The 5 is a lot smaller, more compact, powers up with the USB cable rather than a 9 volt or starting the sled, and all the accessories that Dynojet is coming out with or will be adding are taylored to the 5. I would recommend 5. Earlier on I would recommend the 3 only because I already had several 3 maps to use and had not gotten a lot of 5 maps completed. 4622 if I am the one that did not call back I am sorry about that, I do all that I can, I really do. If it was not me then shame on someone!
 
I could sell you either 3 or 5. The 5 is a lot smaller, more compact, powers up with the USB cable rather than a 9 volt or starting the sled, and all the accessories that Dynojet is coming out with or will be adding are taylored to the 5. I would recommend 5. Earlier on I would recommend the 3 only because I already had several 3 maps to use and had not gotten a lot of 5 maps completed. 4622 if I am the one that did not call back I am sorry about that, I do all that I can, I really do. If it was not me then shame on someone!

What are you doing to get by the problem of everyone's sleds running different fuel pressures? Are you mapping to a certain PSI? Just going off of experience of the BD Box and the Attitude Ind. box.

Aaron
 
Consistency is the strong point on the Powercommander. They are not as sensitive to fuel pressure and elevation as the other controllers are.
 
well I have the 3 now should have talked to you sooner. I have a slp pipe,bdx intake and oil delete. do you think the stock intake gives more power and do you have a map with the bdx mods for a PCIII. or do I need a diff map. 09 m1000. I like my egts to be 1150 at wot (what they where stock) and with the slp programming I was getting over 1250.
 
I would like to add a couple things about the Power Commander 5 and autotune. I work at dynojet and do product development and testing for the snowmobile products so I have lots of time working with these units.

I want to mention that the best option for most consumers is going to be using a map that was built by a pipe builder or tuner. There are a number of diffrent sources for the snowmobile maps and they are starting to cover most sleds and most modifications.

Map Sources
Starting Line Products
Dynotech Research
Speedwerx
Racin Station (Teton Motorsports)
Dakota Performance

These people have been working hard at building maps for diffrent combinations. Dakota Performance has turbo maps for the Arctic Cat 800 and 1000 while the other companies have been covering the naturaly aspirated setups.

Autotune works by comunicating the AFR of the engine to the Power Commander 5. Then the Power Commander seeks the AFR that you have specified. Autotune is a good tuning tool if you know what AFR you want. Autotune is still going to take some time and you may need to manualy edit some of the trims to perfect your map.

I will try and keep an eye on this topic and answer questions when I can. I also watch a Power Commander thread under the Performance/Modified section.
 
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I have a PCV. I have not put too many miles on yet. I built my own map just to try it out, worked ok. Just brought my sled to the dealer to get the 09 update done so I can install the map that I bought from RACINSTATION, Thanks for the tune.:D I will let you all know how it works.
 
Racinstation:

Could you pm me on the price of a PCV with one of your maps for a

2009 M1000
Speedwerx pipe and Y pipe
MBRP Can
BDX air intake.
Riding elevation 3000-6500 feet.

Thanks
 
I sent you a pm too Racingstation if you have anything that will work let me know really interested!!
 
Couple questions...

Racinstation, I've an 07 M1K with 08 reflash (the dealers won't do the 09 flash because of the mods on the sled). It has the SLP pipeset, RKT head 13.6:1, BDX intake, Boyesen Rage Cages, and STM Exhaust Valves. Is there a map available for the PC3 or 5 that will be close to my setup? I'm runnin a BD box currently, but would like the finer tuning offered by the Dynojet unit. Even knowing the difference between the 09 refash vs. the 08 flash in my ecu would help in setting one up. If so, please PM me with a price for the unit with map, and I'll get ahold of you to purchase.
Thanks
 
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