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possibly selling a sled to someone from canada. whats needed to cross the boarder

Bocephus

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i have made a deal with a guy from canada to purchase my sled. he is coming across the boarder to the US to get it. im just trying to help the guy out to make sure we have all our ducks in a row to make the transaction flawless. i will not be going to canada, so i wont need a passport.


the guy told me they requested a copy of current registration and a copy of a purchase agreement/bill of sale to be faxed to the boarder patrol. do they actually need the title too? i have a loan on the sled, and the bank obviously wont give me the title until the loan is paid. they said they would gladly give me a copy of it, but i could not get the "real" title until its paid (which is obviously understandable). do you think there will be troubles taking it across with no title, just a copy?


any advice/opinions/thoughts are appreciated.
 
I sold a four wheeler to a guy from Canada. I asked him what border crossing he would be taking and personally called that border station and asked them exactly what I will need. I did fax them a few things and so did the buyer. Im no sure on your title? im sure they can answer that question though. There are some machines that they won't even allow over the boarder. EVER! they can tell you if yours is one or not.

Just make sure he has CASH!! Even a certified check or something like it can be a pain. Because of him getting it in Canada and you having a bank in the US.. Even if its legit.
 
I sold a sled to a guy from Canada a few years back. They would not let him cross the border without the original title in hand is what he told me. He paid in US cash and I gave him title, and a bill of sale and that’s all there was to it.

I also sold an mx bike to a guy from Canada about 6-7 years ago, kinda the same deal, he came into the US and paid cash. If memory serves me right they have to pay some extra tax on it or something if it’s over maybe $2k? Anywho i wrote the bill of sale for $1900 (even though I was selling it for $2300 or $2400) to help the guy out. I guess when he got to the boarder they didn’t believe the price and interrogated the guy about what he really paid for it. I met him in MT while I was out hunting so they called my cell to verify the price, but since I was in God’s country I had no cell service. They then called my parents’ house since that was the address the title had (I was in college at the time) and asked my mom what I was selling it for (which she had no idea). They then spent about 2 hours on the internet until they found my ad for it and my asking price, which they then drilled the guy for another 30 minutes until he admitted to what he paid. 4 hours at the boarder a $1000 fine plus having to pay the tax later, he was on his way into Canada. Moral of the story - if they ask for it you better have it BC apparently they take that s**t seriously.
 
Don't pay cash. There is no way to prove to the border cops what you actually paid and odds are good you will be hassled.
 
I've sold 2 sleds to canadains

you need a bill of sale, a copy of the title and a letter of origin from the manufacturer, this can take 3 weeks to get. then you must fax these documents to the border crossing that he will be using 72 hours in advance to him crossing the border
 
you need a bill of sale, a copy of the title and a letter of origin from the manufacturer, this can take 3 weeks to get. then you must fax these documents to the border crossing that he will be using 72 hours in advance to him crossing the border

he didnt tell me anything about a letter of origin, but the bill of sale and a copy of the current registration 72 hrs in advance is what he asked me to provide. i did that, so we'll see how it goes.....
 
you will need to send him a title or the letter of origin, and a bill of sale (they also like to have whats called a boarder cover letter). he will have to fax that to the boarder 72 working hours before he gets there. the mso is typically used when you are having a sled imported from a state that doesnt issue titles to sled's (WA)

cash is ok to make the deal with as long as there is some proof of what the machine was sold for (eg. craigslist ad)

one other thing to mention is if the sled has any encumberances it will not clear the US customs export, meaning the sled will have to be payed off before the paperwork is sent into the boarder.
 
I've done this a number of times for sleds and a truck. Both sleds I bought had clear titles, but the truck didn't.

I met the guy at his bank and brought a certified check made out to his bank and him. The bank provided a signed letter saying the lien had been satisfied and included a copy of the title. The actual title was mailed to me by their head office a week later. This information was sufficient for the border patrol.

Bill of sale, a copy of the original for sale ad and proof of how much money he took down (cash or certified check receipt from the bank) will help things go smoothly.

How to import a snowmobile:

1. Get the owner to fax you a copy of their registration/title/certificate of origin and bill of sale. Fax that to the border no less than 72 hours before you plan to take it across. You want to make sure the sled has no liens on it prior to doing this.

2. Phone the manufacturer of sled you're buying and get them to give you a recall clearance letter. You will need to supply the VIN, and possibly the bill of sale. They will check to see if all recalls were done. If they are not done get the owner of the sled to do them, they are free for them usually. DO NOT buy a sled if all recalls are not done, you may not be able to get them done free in Canada. Once the owner gets them done, phone the manufacturer again and get them to give you an updated clearance letter.

3. When you come back across, stop at the US side and go inside the public entrance. Ask for an officer to check the sled out and make sure the VIN is there and they will stamp the title/certificate of origin/registration. They typically don’t even look at the sled, just the paperwork you provide.

4. Take the title/certificate of origin/registration and bill of sale along with any other proof of purchase you have to the CDN side. They will get you to pull over and go inside.

5. Go inside and pay GST on the purchase price. You will need the title/certificate of origin/registration and bill of sale, the date of manufacture (off the side of the tunnel) and whatever other proof you have of the sale price. They give you a Form 1 and they fill it out. They fax a copy of it to RIV. You have 45 days to get the sled approved for import from this time on.

5. Pay the RIV fee @ www.riv.ca ($205) as soon as you get home.

6. Fax the recall clearance to RIV with your reference # from your form 1 and your online payment reference #.

7. Phone RIV 48 hours later and give them your case number which will be in red at the top of your Form 1. Get them to confirm that they have the copy of the Form 1 sent from the border, the payment you made and the recall clearance. They will mail you a Form 2 or you can get them to email it to you. Email is much faster but dealing with them is like pulling teeth.

8. Take the Form 2 to Canadian Tire or any other approved outlet. At the Auto Service desk, tell them you have a sled you need them to fill the Form 2 out for. They verify the VIN and model number. Then they get you to start the sled to make sure the kill switch works and check for reflectors.

9. Go register the sled with your completed Form 1, Form 2, bill of sale and title. You pay the PST and you're done.

Important contact information:
US Customs Fax number for Emerson crossing: (701) 825-6567
US Customs Contact number for Emerson crossing: (701) 825-6551
RIV Fax number: (416) 626-0366
RIV Contact: 1-888-848-8240
Polaris customer care: (763) 417-8650
Arctic Cat USA: 218-681-9851
Arctic Cat Winnipeg Office: 982-1772 (forwards to 986-1656)
Arctic Cat Winnipeg Recall Letter Request Line: 204-832-0205

Hope this helps. It's really an exercise in patience and paperwork management more than anything.
 
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