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POLARIS OFFICAL ANSWERS TO 2014 QUICKDRIVE IMPROVEMENT QUESTIONS

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I asked my contacts at Polaris for clarification of the QuickDrive improvements for 2014.

These are not "rumor type" answers. They come from Polaris corporate in consultation with the engineering and production departments in charge of the design, specification and production of the sleds.

There are many inaccurate rumors out there generated by the filtering down of information through the DSM's, dealers and other people in the "chain" that is normal and part of the process of communication.

I am posting up here what I have been told in an attempt to keep speculation to a minimum.

What we will see as results in 2014 Production sleds in the hands of the consumer will be seen next fall.

MH





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1)
Q: Will the 2014 QD feature the same Extruded driveshaft?

A: Yes, there is no change to the driveshaft



2)
Q: Will the driveshaft be equipped with a collar?

A: Yes, the collar will be standard on the MY14 Pro-RMK. This has proven to be a very effective solution for addressing concerns with driveshaft separation.



3)
Q: Has the splined drive-end stub been changed at all to extend into the driveshaft?

A:No, the geometry of the end has not been changed. However, the tolerances on the controlled dimensions have been tightened. The reason for this is that the ultimate root cause of driveshaft separation was part fit, NOT the bonding process. The bonded joint is sufficiently strong, and the bonding process is well-controlled. Tightening the tolerances will ensure the integrity of the joint. The inclusion of the collar for MY14 as noted above is simply a “belt and suspenders” solution to instill confidence.



4)
Q: Has the toothed drive belt been changed at all, and if so, what has been done?

A: First, please note the following regarding QuickDrive belts:

a. QuickDrive technology provides tremendous benefits to consumers as it gives the sled a lighter, more responsive feel. This is industry-leading technology and we’re committed to continuous improvement.

b. The root causes of belt tooth shear are typically elevated temperatures and shock loading (i.e. Power-on landings)

c. Elevated belt temps are often driven by riding style – such as prolonged high-speed runs on hardpack snow. Normal deep snow riding conditions do not typically cause elevated belt temps. (This is largely a consumer education issue, similar to when tall-lug tracks were introduced. Consumers learned that these purpose built mountain tracks should not be operated at sustained high speeds.)



For MY14, Polaris has developed a new QuickDrive belt. This new belt runs cooler and is 25% - 40% stronger than the MY13 belt in typical deep snow riding conditions. The new belt will be available in time for the 13-14 riding season and will supersede the old part number. It can be used on both MY13 and MY14 Pro-RMKs.



We have also introduced a Service Bulletin to address sprocket fastener torque. This bulletin instructs dealers to replace the sprocket bolts and torque properly. This will ensure the fastener stays tight and will not allow the sprocket to loosen – a condition which may also reduce QuickDrive belt life. Consumers should have this work done as soon as they can.



We are asking our dealers to continue to educate consumers on best practices to ensure maximum belt life:

a. Carefully follow recommended QuickDrive belt break-in procedures. Speeds should be moderate and varied.

b. Minimize power-on landings.

c. Avoid prolonged high-speed running – similar to track guidelines.

d. Allow system to cool after high-speed runs.
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Thank you for the information! We have not had any problems with ours (13 PRO800 and 13 PRO 600) I do believe we stop a fair amount, which has allowed them to cool.:face-icon-small-coo
 
The majority of 2013 PRO RMK owners do/did not have problems... To be fair though... there are a significant number of people with QuickDrive™ system failures, many of those with multiple.

For those that are harder on their equipment, The Std RMK or Assault may be a better choice for you... with it's time proven chaincase design.



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Open for discussion.


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Awesome. Thanks Eric.

I've noticed that my QD belt has some slack in it. Just enough where I can pinch the belt together between the pullies and lift the belt off the top pulley. I can almost get it up out of the teeth of the pulley, but NOT up over the tracking guide on the outside of the top pulley.

This is when the belt is COLD.


When the belt is warm, it shrinks and gets tighter. Can't pinch it and lift if off the pulley.

No BS, LESS belt deflection when it gets warm.
Loosens up and expands when it cools.
No need for a tensioner with this belt compound and length.

Discussion? :face-icon-small-ton
 
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2014 Quick Drive Improvements

Excellent update on the 2014 QD improvements.

One of my biggest concerns was being able to use the new QD 2014 parts on my 2013 QD, if I were ever to have any issues and needed to replace them. So far everyting is holding up well, just need to have the QD bolts replaced under the latest QD bulletin.
 
Awesome. Thanks Eric.

I've noticed that my QD belt has some slack in it. Just enough where I can pinch the belt together between the pullies and lift the belt off the top pulley. I can almost get it up out of the teeth of the pulley, but NOT up over the tracking guide on the outside of the top pulley.

This is when the belt is COLD.


When the belt is warm, it shrinks and gets tighter. Can't pinch it and lift if off the pulley.

No BS, LESS belt deflection when it gets warm.
Loosens up and expands when it cools.
No need for a tensioner with this belt compound and length.

Discussion? :face-icon-small-ton

I've noticed the same, Its why aftermarket systems want about 1/2" of deflection when setting the tension.
Is it from the belt shrinking or the pulleys expanding when warm?
I've also seen high belt and top pulley temps all year when running high speed trails and roads and cool temps in the deep beating the hell out of it.
 
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I'm wondering if the old chaincase hole in teh bottom of the plastic is a GOOD thing, letting snow in that could potentially act as coolant to the system.
 
I'm wondering if the old chaincase hole in teh bottom of the plastic is a GOOD thing, letting snow in that could potentially act as coolant to the system.

I'm wondering if the 14s will even have the belly pan hole. I taped mine up with two plies of Gorrilla tape and used Mike Taylor's footwell vents. I have just shy of 600 miles on my machine, with no issues.
I noticed a clean dry belly pan under the QD in all conditions
 
I'm wondering if the 14s will even have the belly pan hole. I taped mine up with two plies of Gorrilla tape and used Mike Taylor's footwell vents. I have just shy of 600 miles on my machine, with no issues.
I noticed a clean dry belly pan under the QD in all conditions

I'm sure it would be clean and dry. But I wonder just how much cooler another guy would be riding side by side with you who left his wide open. Wonder if the belt or pulley temps sould be lower.


When booning and tree riding I really didn't ever notice that much snow around my belt drive this year, even on days with hood deep powder...or deeper.
 
Im guessing the reason the belt gets tighter when warm is the sprockets or sheeves expand and the belt will stay nearly the same length(less expansion rate than the aluminum). That is cool that they addressed some issues as I am snowchecking a new pro.:face-icon-small-hap
 
I guess I must be one of the lucky ones. 1933 miles mostly on the prairies. lots of wide open to the bar for miles and I have not had one problem with the Q drive or anything else for that matter.
I do have a "thing" can on it that leaves more space between the exhaust and the belt, that may have something to do with the belt lasting this long.
Best Pro I have had hands down, better performing than the 11 or 12.
 
Do you know if Polaris will allow the unused spare belts that people have purchased as a backup, to be swapped out for the newer stronger belt?
 
Thanks Eric!!:D But I am still loving my 12 so I think Im going to hang on to it for another couple years:D
 
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