Do you really need more than a 4 foot base to do that? Especially in a wind loaded area
P-22 failure on 9R
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Chalky, I think you’re a bit off based. Saying Tony is trying to sell a product because his business is clutching isn’t really the case. He just loves making sleds run better at the end of the day. He no doubt sees and hears about a lot of P22 failures and spends a ton of time tuning in the rmsha setting way more than you’d expect. Also, saying the pros you ride with know all is comical. They aren’t aloud to talk about the issues with their sleds with clients. The fact that yours runs great is awesome, enjoy it! Never saw Tony asking you to buy his P85 clutch setup. Man I should be riding not replying to this. Snow on the way, enjoy it regardless of what your setup is!
What's your excuse for not
What's your excuse for not riding today? ? You are making a lot of assumptions with your post. I have not witnessed a wrecked P22 yet. I've been around plenty of them. I was stating my opinion. My dealer has yet to warranty one. Just stating my opinion. All the forumers deserve to get the Forum Expert's opinion on these matters. It's crucial for the survival of this forum. ?
My dealer never saw a motor blown either. You make more assumptions than anyone on here chalky.
baker? really
RMSHA is like any other racing, you break down, you lose, plain and simple, so its a very good place to start a reliability conversation. If they are allowed to in their racing bracket they will use what works best and isn't going to break 1/2 way up the hill. The advantage of 1 lb lighter of the P-22 is very debatable. Just ask Indy Dan why he makes his P-85 covers heavier than the stock cover, but that's a whole different can of worms. Personally seen two P-22's leave sleds stranded on the hill this year, too gnarly of an area to tow them out. Had to go back with a P-85 and all the tools to swap things out to get the sleds out. In the last 22 years of mountain riding I've never had or seen a P-85 leave someone stranded on the mountain and there are thousands more P-85's out there than P-22's. Time will tell, but this is how the Cat Team roller bearing clutch started out, a number of failures the first year that people refused to believe was a problem.
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I wonder if Polaris is going to junk the motor because all the money they have lost warranting them. You are an idiot. Go pound more Coors Light and tear up those groomers. ?
I bet over revving is causing a lot of these problems. Everyone is riding around with high elevation clutching which isn't enough weight unless you are riding 11,000'.
If you think for one minute that these guys don't test and retest stuff to try to get a competitive advantage your title of forum expert should be revoked. If the p-22 worked better they would be running it. Just for the 1lb weight advantage alone vs the p85 should spool up quicker. I guarantee if KC wanted a new P22 for every race Polaris would give him one.
Ever heard the term if it ain't broke, don't fix it? They have no reason to change.
So your saying there's no performance advantage to the p-22?
And I’m the one making assumptions?
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I have personally seen P-85's come apart.
They are not bulletproof. I like them fine, performance has been great for me.
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who says he doesn't have them on his mod sleds??!! he might!!
I work on the P22 daily from customers..There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed..the one issue I am seeing more anymore is the softer alum they use..the belt is digging into the sheaves after only a couple hundred miles...When I drill to balance the material is very soft, no heat treating at all...the belt clearance is way to big, most are .050-.070 that is way to much (should be .010-.020) to get any bottom end, thus leading to the belt digging into the sheaves when taking off!!! slamming...I could go on and no seeing issues......I get why Polaris made a P22 clutch, the weights are getting bigger and bigger, and the P85 was not designed for 86 Gram weights and is very narrow in the spider for wide weights...Could be a easy fix redesigning the spider on the P85...One a quick side not we make the P85 LIGHTER than the P22...wont touch the TSS-04 with out the defection bolt!!!!! bad deal...
