Ousting Obama countdown....

[MPS]

Inauguration day is on Jan 20th....however that is a Sunday in 2013 so it will be on Jan 21st.

I look forward to ousting the worst president in US history. I don't think any president or politician will fix the crap we are in now. Our system is corrupted....the Federal Reserve is the real powerhouse of this country. They run us like puppets and the next president will just be another Federal Reserve puppet.

However, I look forward to ousting a man that has done the most damage to this country save it be the Federal Reserve. This is for you Ruffy...yes Bush did damage to this country.

May the next puppet be less damaging than the last four and certainly less damaging than the last one.

413 days and counting!

 

[POLZIN]

I predict Barry will be re-elected . not kidding. sadly . history has shown me that americans when given a choice will make the most stupid selfish desision possible. Proof of that was election inaguration day 08,04,00,96,etc.

Thats the part that pisses me off now is that conservative sheep are apperently just a stupid as libs.

Cain 2012 haha holy chit you gotta be kidding me ?

 

[winter brew]

I predict Barry will be re-elected . not kidding. sadly . history has shown me that americans when given a choice will make the most stupid selfish desision possible. Proof of that was election inaguration day 08,04,00,96,etc.

Thats the part that pisses me off now is that conservative sheep are apperently just a stupid as libs.

Cain 2012 haha holy chit you gotta be kidding me ?

Yep....have to agree.
I think it will be a Romney/Bachman ticket...possibly Palin?
Romney is way too liberal IMO.....go to his state and you have Ronmeycare and pay high road tolls everywhere you go and the roads are crap!, potholes everywhere! I know that's just looking at the surface but I think those little things tell a big story about how a state is run.
There is really no one I am excited to vote for...just not Obama!

 

[POLZIN]

Id rather have barry again than Romney. For all his failed policy we should award him a promotion ? People knew nothing about Barry and thats a shame. We know and have proof Romney is a looser.

Ron paul was the only chance I would vote but the media wont let him be a contender.

 

[elvi]

The kids filed back into class Monday morning. They were very excited. Their weekend assignment was to sell something, then give a talk on productive salesmanship. Little Sally led off: "I sold girl scout cookies and I made $30," she said proudly, "My sales approach was to appeal to the customer's civil spirit and I credit that approach for my obvious success." "Very good," said the teacher.

Little Mary was next: "I sold magazines," she said, "I made $45 and I explained to everyone that magazines would keep them up on current events. " "Very good, Mary " said the teacher.

Eventually, it was Little Johnny's turn.
The teacher held her breath...Little Johnny walked to the front of the classroom and dumped a box full of cash on the teacher's desk. "$2,467," he said. "$2,467!" cried the teacher, "What in the world were you selling?" "Mouthwash," said Little Johnny. "Mouthwash!" echoed the teacher, "How could you possibly sell enough Mouthwash to make that much money?" "I found the busiest corner in town," said Little Johnny. "I set up a Dip & Chip stand and gave everybody who walked by a free sample." They all said the same thing, "Hey, this tastes like dog crap!" Then I would say, "It is dog crap. Wanna' buy some mouthwash?" "I used the Obama approach of giving them something ****ty for free, and then making them pay to get the taste out of their mouth."

 

[MPS]

I predict Barry will be re-elected . not kidding. sadly . history has shown me that americans when given a choice will make the most stupid selfish desision possible. Proof of that was election inaguration day 08,04,00,96,etc.

Thats the part that pisses me off now is that conservative sheep are apperently just a stupid as libs.

Cain 2012 haha holy chit you gotta be kidding me ?

Oh man don't get me started on Cain and the Federal Reserve! Cain will put this country on the fast track of financial suicide because he is a Fed insider. I do agree with you about the conservative sheep. You know I am Mormon, but I refuse to vote for that POS Romney. He is as liberal as they come and he is a liar. Now don't turn this into a religion thread! However, the conservative sheep around Utah and Idaho will vote for him because he is Mormon...gimme a freaking break!

Yep....have to agree.
I think it will be a Romney/Bachman ticket...possibly Palin?
Romney is way too liberal IMO.....go to his state and you have Ronmeycare and pay high road tolls everywhere you go and the roads are crap!, potholes everywhere! I know that's just looking at the surface but I think those little things tell a big story about how a state is run.
There is really no one I am excited to vote for...just not Obama!

You are right on about Romney. Obamacare was modeled after Romneycare.

Unfortunately I would take the douche Romney before Bama. I hate that this is what it has come to in this nation....we have to decide who is less of a piece of chit!!!!! I am so damn tired of it! REVOLUTION!!!!!

The kids filed back into class Monday morning. They were very excited. Their weekend assignment was to sell something, then give a talk on productive salesmanship. Little Sally led off: "I sold girl scout cookies and I made $30," she said proudly, "My sales approach was to appeal to the customer's civil spirit and I credit that approach for my obvious success." "Very good," said the teacher.

Little Mary was next: "I sold magazines," she said, "I made $45 and I explained to everyone that magazines would keep them up on current events. " "Very good, Mary " said the teacher.

Eventually, it was Little Johnny's turn.
The teacher held her breath...Little Johnny walked to the front of the classroom and dumped a box full of cash on the teacher's desk. "$2,467," he said. "$2,467!" cried the teacher, "What in the world were you selling?" "Mouthwash," said Little Johnny. "Mouthwash!" echoed the teacher, "How could you possibly sell enough Mouthwash to make that much money?" "I found the busiest corner in town," said Little Johnny. "I set up a Dip & Chip stand and gave everybody who walked by a free sample." They all said the same thing, "Hey, this tastes like dog crap!" Then I would say, "It is dog crap. Wanna' buy some mouthwash?" "I used the Obama approach of giving them something ****ty for free, and then making them pay to get the taste out of their mouth."

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

 

[ruffryder]

Oh man don't get me started on Cain and the Federal Reserve! Cain will put this country on the fast track of financial suicide because he is a Fed insider.

Do you honestly think that is what Cain wants? I swear you seem to have become Mr. Slippery slope.

IMO, Cain will be much better than Romney, or I don't have a clue Perry. Perry seems to have a tough guy attitude and that is it. Cain has some good ideas, I just wish his plan for the budget included the possibility that the economy might not get better for a while, so it will be difficult to grow ourselves out of this problem. Though I heard US exports have increased a lot recently and imports have decreased, so things are doing pretty good due to the low value of the dollar.

You are right on about Romney. Obamacare was modeled after Romneycare.

That is just a sound byte. Do some research or some "investigating" lol and see for yourself. Anything that resembled Romneycare before it hit congress got changed and mutilated into what we have now.

Funny, people forget that a lot of the ideas that are in Obamacare came from republican proposals for health care in the past. Just now that Obama's name is on it, it must be bad? The inconsistency with congressmen is tiring.

Newt and Cain. Newt has the experience and the knowledge. Cain has the relevancy. Both seem to be sick with the status quo (just like Obama said he was) but I think both have a lot less to loose with being in the presidency and not having to make everyone happy.

I wish all of the candidates would be more honest about the financial condition this county is in and that it might take a long time to grow our way out of this mess.

 

[snowmobilesrme]

actually.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

when you mix truth with common sense, you might get pissed.

 

[Dartos]

Id rather have barry again than Romney. For all his failed policy we should award him a promotion ? People knew nothing about Barry and thats a shame.

Ok I'll bite. Who is Barry?

 

[ruffryder]

Ok I'll bite. Who is Barry?

Barack...

 

[MPS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

when you mix truth with common sense, you might get pissed.

Right on my friend! That video has the most political/financial truth I have ever seen. I am impressed that at the age of 23, you are so awake to it all. I agree the Bush's have been puppets....but Obama has been the most faithful puppet of all thus far.

 

[MPS]

Do you honestly think that is what Cain wants? I swear you seem to have become Mr. Slippery slope.

IMO, Cain will be much better than Romney, or I don't have a clue Perry. Perry seems to have a tough guy attitude and that is it. Cain has some good ideas, I just wish his plan for the budget included the possibility that the economy might not get better for a while, so it will be difficult to grow ourselves out of this problem. Though I heard US exports have increased a lot recently and imports have decreased, so things are doing pretty good due to the low value of the dollar.

That is just a sound byte. Do some research or some "investigating" lol and see for yourself. Anything that resembled Romneycare before it hit congress got changed and mutilated into what we have now.

Funny, people forget that a lot of the ideas that are in Obamacare came from republican proposals for health care in the past. Just now that Obama's name is on it, it must be bad? The inconsistency with congressmen is tiring.

Newt and Cain. Newt has the experience and the knowledge. Cain has the relevancy. Both seem to be sick with the status quo (just like Obama said he was) but I think both have a lot less to loose with being in the presidency and not having to make everyone happy.

I wish all of the candidates would be more honest about the financial condition this county is in and that it might take a long time to grow our way out of this mess.

I am Mr. Slippery Slope because I think outside of the box and refuse to be a puppet to this bullchit system?? I refuse to be a propaganda tool for the elite's agenda. I freely admit I soaked up the "Republican" agenda for years. That time is over and I refuse to soak up any political bullchit until the financial powers that hide in the shadows are out of power.

Like I said the next president will be another puppet to the Federal Reserve and the real powers that be. Cain has worked for the Fed and he will be the most loyal puppet of all. Yes Cain and the Fed want this country destroyed in order to build a new political/financial power structure....the financial powers that be will be much more powerful than they are now. Cain is fully aware of the real agenda of the central PRIVATE bank! I have no doubt he has been promised a seat on the throne for his loyalty! I mean come on! It is a fawking private bank! Do you think a private financial institution gives a rat's a$$ about the peoples' well being!!!!???

It's funny that people have forgotten that universal healthcare ideas have come from republicans? Hmmm well I mentioned it here that Romney implemented it. I don't give a rat's a$$ who stamps his/her name to it! I STRONGLY oppose it! You said it yourself...they used Romneycare as a model and tweaked it! That is all I meant. It isn't the same!

There really is no left or right anymore...it is about who will kiss the real power's a$$! The real power is the central bank. We are all just fawking gullible rats being used as mindless pawns on a chess board. The monetary system is SO easily manipulated by the central bank it is ridiculous. NONE of our economic problems have happened because of bad luck! Anyone who thinks that is naive as hell!

I am not out to bash anyone on here...even you Ruffy. I just want people to wake up to the real power structure in this country. The Fed sits on the top and has since Woodrow Wilson signed it in. The Great Depression was not bad luck either. The market was purposely manipulated with and LOADS of money was made off the suffering of good people.

http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm


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[MPS]

Presidents that most notably opposed a central bank:

John F Kennedy
James Garlfield
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Jackson

...what happened to them

Andrew Jackson, 7th U.S. President, 1829-1824
When the 1816 charter expired in 1836, Andrew Jackson vetoed its renewal. See Jackson's Veto Message to Congress It was then that he made two famous statements: "The Bank is trying to kill me - but I will kill it!" Later he said "If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system - there would be a revolution before morning..." There were assassination attempts on his life.


Abraham Lincoln-(1809-1865) the 16th President of the U.S.-Assassinated while in Office.
In his First Inaugural Address, Lincoln made a point to discuss the role of Capital and Labor. Significant national issues were, at that time, in the first official speech, immediately after a Presidential Election.
Lincoln spoke on finances and government: "In his First Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1861, Abraham Lincoln stated: "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed, if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights."
President Lincoln needed money to finance the Civil War, and the international bankers offered him loans at 24-36% interest. Lincoln balked at their demands because he didn't want to plunge the nation into such a huge debt. Lincoln approached Congress about passing a law to authorize the printing of U.S. Treasury Notes. Lincoln said "We gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they ever had - their own paper money to pay their debts..." Lincoln printed over 400 million "Greenbacks" (debt and interest-free) and paid the soldiers, U.S. government employees, and bought war supplies. The international bankers didn't like it and wanted Lincoln to borrow the money from them, so that the American people would owe tremendous interest on the loan. Lincoln's solution made this seem ridiculous. Shortly after Lincoln's death, the government revoked the Greenback law which ended Lincoln's debt-free, interest-free money. A new national banking act was enacted and all currency became interest-bearing, debt instruments, again.


James A. Garfield-(1831-1881) 20th President of the United States.
Assassinated in Office.
President James A. Garfield said: "Whoever controls the money in any country is absolute master of industry [legislation] and commerce".

John F. Kennedy -(1917-1963)-35th President of the United States-
Assassinated in Office.
On June 4, 1963, President Kennedy issued Executive Order 11110.


This Executive Order called for the issuance of new currency -
the United States Note. At the time, $4,292,893 of this currency was put into circulation. This new currency was to be distributed through the U.S. Treasury and not the Federal Reserve System. Furthermore, it was to be issued debt and interest-free.
Upon Kennedy's assassination, this currency was withdrawn from circulation, never to be issued again. See Kennedy Solution

 

[milehighassassin]

Even the idea that "gold" is worth something is funny. Gold is only worth what you can get people to believe it is worth. If I can convince someone that a flaming pile of poo is worth X-Amount then it can be the new standard. So having a paper standard is not an issue as long as you can convince people that that little paper bill with mostly dead presidents on them are worth something, it works.

 

[snowmobilesrme]

Right on my friend! That video has the most political/financial truth I have ever seen. I am impressed that at the age of 23, you are so awake to it all. I agree the Bush's have been puppets....but Obama has been the most faithful puppet of all thus far.

well im glad a few people agree with me on here... those are the ones who are awake.

who dont swallow everything they see on fox news even, as they too have been under control of corporate media.

if you read most of these political threads, my input is in almost everyone of them, and the funny people of snowest talk to me like im a looney.

you say you want to decide who the most honest one is?

RON PAUL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3EptrKOms

he's been consistant for over 20 years. go look at his 1988 interviews.

you wonder why they dont talk about him much on news?

1, its corperate media, they're afraid of ron paul. cause he's right. if you have people in power, that want to remain in power, even behind closed curtains, they're going to do everything they can to keep that power. its common sense. look at the common behavior of man.

if you got a shady dude that does some shady chit, trying to win over a girl and get in her pants, and some outsiders, or insiders, know of some shady chit that dude has done, that dude's gonna do everything he can to make sure his secrets dont get to the girl hes tryin to get with. hes gonna beat people up, and hes gonna do what he can ahead of time to make those people look like bad people. to cover his own butt.

2, they're censoring him

3, go watch all the debates, interviews, etc. every curveball is thrown at him, and he hits every single one on the sweet spot. when he's being interviewed, he speaks truth. when he speaks truth on a subject that the interviewer himself doesnt like, they'll interupt him and change the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmqU_tpAjBM&feature=related

dont know if this was really banned from a repeat showing on fox news but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54WFoV-veCM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvp1RY-7ACw&feature=related

its going to be tough to beat the system at hand though, cause the system is among people of very high power. a bloodline that they hold strong to.

and btw, rick perry is a member of the Bilderberg group. and hes a friggin idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGf8lP87HU

i give many links to youtube. people say "how can you call youtube a source for research?"

because youtube is the less censored media out there. if a live session is aired on tv, that they dont play again as a rerun, you can find it on youtube.

you can find people's uncensored thoughts on youtube. you can find real happenings on youtube. and you should be able to use good enough judgement to decide which videos are rubbish or not.


its going to be hard to beat the powers at hand though, cause they're part of a bloodline that they hold true to as far as who gets to decide how this world is ran. they can easily destroy us if they wanted to. if you can create/run/control a society/societies, country/countries, over the years, you can eliminate everthing in seconds. thats why its going to take a meracle to get us out of this danger zone.

ron paul knows/speaks of the dangers.

if people continue to take the bate, we're gonna keep going down hill.

there's countries that wont even accept the american dollar anymore.

there's other countries that hate us cause of jealousy... that was the story 15 years ago....

now theres other countries that hate us cause they know our government is up to some shady stuff, and the abuse of power is very real.

 

[ruffryder]

Even the idea that "gold" is worth something is funny. Gold is only worth what you can get people to believe it is worth. If I can convince someone that a flaming pile of poo is worth X-Amount then it can be the new standard. So having a paper standard is not an issue as long as you can convince people that that little paper bill with mostly dead presidents on them are worth something, it works.

That is the main problem I have with Ron Paul.... Though, maybe the his point is not that golds "value" is different then that of paper money, just that it is less difficult to manipulate.

 

[swampwater]

Ignorance from the left runs rampant on snowest, you cannot change the laws of economics anymore than you can change the laws of physics, the requirements of any species used for money is that it have intrinsic value otherwise it is only fiat money. I love the products of the american school systems, no wonder we have the like of Pelosi, Frank, Dod, Reid and company running our government. I will guarantee you everyone knows the value of Gold and no one will refuse to accept it in payment of debt. Swampy

Even the idea that "gold" is worth something is funny. Gold is only worth what you can get people to believe it is worth. If I can convince someone that a flaming pile of poo is worth X-Amount then it can be the new standard. So having a paper standard is not an issue as long as you can convince people that that little paper bill with mostly dead presidents on them are worth something, it works.

 

[ruffryder]

Ignorance from the left runs rampant on snowest, you cannot change the laws of economics anymore than you can change the laws of physics, the requirements of any species used for money is that it have intrinsic value otherwise it is only fiat money.

You are confusing intrinsic value and fiat money. Gold does not have an intrinsic value... maybe for electronic components but that is it.

I love the products of the american school systems, no wonder we have the like of Pelosi, Frank, Dod, Reid and company running our government. I will guarantee you everyone knows the value of Gold and no one will refuse to accept it in payment of debt. Swampy

Your gurantee is worthless. If everyone knew the value of gold, why is there are market that keeps changing? Why has the value of gold crashed before, and why will it again? Or are you just using a sloppy version of "value"...

Good try, but you are going to need something more then hyperbole and derogatory statements to prove a point over here... I guess at the other place you always get a "right on man" even in know one understands anything?

 

[swampwater]

I love the way your posts serve the purpose of validating my statements. Economics was obviously not your area of study. As a matter of fact almost any product has intrinsic value, the difference between fiat money and gold is fiat money is paper with an intrinsic valu of almost zero per ounce thwe last I looked gold was around 1700.00 per ounce, now trhats real intrinsic value. The value of gold does not fluctuate nearly as much as the value of fiat money. Thousands of years ago society determined that gold and silver would be the standard of wealth and you will find no one who will not accept gold or silver in payment of debt worldwide. Where is the hyperbole? The reason values fluctuate is based on supply and demand as well as there are allways those who try and effect the values to make money, why do you think George Sorros owns 19 tons of gold. It is only fiat money that requires people accept it no matter what it's actual value. No there are a couple like you over there also who believe the definitiion of inflation is an increase in prices, I don't think they majored in economics either.Swampy

You are confusing intrinsic value and fiat money. Gold does not have an intrinsic value... maybe for electronic components but that is it.

Your gurantee is worthless. If everyone knew the value of gold, why is there are market that keeps changing? Why has the value of gold crashed before, and why will it again? Or are you just using a sloppy version of "value"...

Good try, but you are going to need something more then hyperbole and derogatory statements to prove a point over here... I guess at the other place you always get a "right on man" even in know one understands anything?

 

[ruffryder]

thwe last I looked gold was around 1700.00 per ounce, now trhats real intrinsic value.

you need to review intrinsic value... 1700 per ounce is not an intrinsic value, even a real intrinsic value... lol

I love how your the majority of your response is a put down...

No there are a couple like you over there also who believe the definitiion of inflation is an increase in prices, I don't think they majored in economics either.Swampy

That is the definition of inflation... You just like to think that the definition of inflation needs to have a cause in there, but you don't. Inflation IS an increase in price. How else would you know if there was inflation? lol