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kinneyt

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i don't see much discussion on some non main stream kits.
Like:
http://www.frozenmoto.com/
https://snowtechmx.com/

I would like to hear who has experience with these kits. My plan is that i will be in the market for a new kit at the start of next season.
I am currently on a 2014 TS ST on a Husaberg FE501

Looking forward to hear what people think of these kits.
 
SnowTech MX kits seem to be performing well, if you dig around here you'll find some info on them.

The Frozen Moto kit was a poor design, never performed that well, and from what I recall the owner had a bad reputation for being dishonest and shady. Most people that bought one of those kits basically ended up giving it away after struggling to make them perform in the snow.
 
Highly recommend the SnowTech, especially if you like riding instead of wrenching or limping out ever. Industry leading craftsmanship, durability & reliability.

I'd stay far away from Frozen, the proto & same designer to MotoTrax (we all know about MotoTrax, especially after I rode one last season).

CMX would be my 2nd choice, but have heard concerns around their belts.
 
Highly recommend the SnowTech, especially if you like riding instead of wrenching or limping out ever. Industry leading craftsmanship, durability & reliability.

I'd stay far away from Frozen, the proto & same designer to MotoTrax (we all know about MotoTrax, especially after I rode one last season).

CMX would be my 2nd choice, but have heard concerns around their belts.

What are the concerns?
I ran the first belt CMX used for two years and it is now my spare. I now have two years on the CMX belt and no problems. I have yet to see one break and I ride with 6 other CMX kits.
I can't tell you anything about Mototrax. I ride one of the first CMX kits built. Unless you break it there is no maintenance no grease gun. OOPS, you may have to tighten the chain and lube it. Prior to the CMX we had TS and UFO. CMX was so better there was no reason to look any more.
 
I started in this sport when 2moto and explorer were your only options. I owned a 2 Moto and was good for what is was and was a pioneer in the sport. I upgraded to another kit which had many problems with. Last year I purchased a 2017 snowtechMX. I was looking at CMX as well. The main reason I went with snowtechMX is he was local to where I live and the skid has the most room out of all the kits to strap stuff to. Plus I liked the looks of it. After riding it for about a year now, I love it and I'm glad I went with they kit. Haven't had one problem with it and it is just built to last. I don't think it will ever wear out. The owner is as good as they come, honest and a great guy that takes pride in what he builds. The owner of CMX is a good guy too and I've heard nothing but good things about his kit as well. His is more money than the snowtechMX as well. I personally think the snowtechMX is the best built kit on the market. I love mine!

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I started in this sport when 2moto and explorer were your only options. I owned a 2 Moto and was good for what is was and was a pioneer in the sport. I upgraded to another kit which had many problems with. Last year I purchased a 2017 snowtechMX. I was looking at CMX as well. The main reason I went with snowtechMX is he was local to where I live and the skid has the most room out of all the kits to strap stuff to. Plus I liked the looks of it. After riding it for about a year now, I love it and I'm glad I went with they kit. Haven't had one problem with it and it is just built to last. I don't think it will ever wear out. The owner is as good as they come, honest and a great guy that takes pride in what he builds. The owner of CMX is a good guy too and I've heard nothing but good things about his kit as well. His is more money than the snowtechMX as well. I personally think the snowtechMX is the best built kit on the market. I love mine!

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What length of kit did you opt for? Looking at Snowtech for my next set-up and want to hear as much as possible from those who own them.
 
I have a 129” MX and I love it. Super reliable and great parts and suspension. It is really easy to work on if you ever need to as well, and Jaron and the guys in the shop are top notch.
I would go with a 120” and the CMX track if you are buying new! The 129 is great if you are a bit get guy and don’t want a long track or like me and just want something that will work everywhere.
 
I wouldn't touch a FrozenMoto with a stick.

I'm sure most of you know I have been riding Snowtech since almost the beginning. Five of my friends in WA ride Snowtech as well. After three years the kits have more than proven themselves to be quality built units that were very well engineered.

I have put a few rides with the new Yeti SS kit on a KTM 450SXF or FE501, and have rode the regular Yeti kits, briefly rode the new ARO kit on a 450SXF as well. I had a few friends with MotoHax kits but they couldn't keep the tracks on them long enough for me to take one for a spin (no joke). Had a 14 TS before Snowtech, and a 2Moto before that. I haven't tried a CMX so I cannot give any input there.

The Snowtech is totally bomb-proof and reliable as you can get. I haven't had a to touch my 17.5 120 kit since I mounted it. I got it last spring mid-season. Haven't touched the belt, chain, track, nada. I play with the suspension every now and then to dial it in and that is it. I don't have anything come loose on the kit... I just ride it. I have not heard of a single person tweaking/breaking their forks or spindle at all. I have never blown a belt, or a single part at all on my 17.5 kit.. and I have crashed into a lot of stuff. I've dragged the belt cover across big rocks during early season riding without issue, I wore through a ski rock riding until I could see rocks through it without bending the spindle or my forks, not to mention all the times I have scorpioned over the bars from hitting stuff under the snow. It has grease zercs everywhere, UHMW track and chain sliders/guards everywhere they should be, and all kinds of neat adjustments like an adaptable rake spindle via eccentric bushings. It rides awesome with the huge amount of suspension travel in the skid and adjustable air shock. You can get the new CMX track on it (I hope to get one soon) which looks really good. It comes standard with a coilover 3rd shock (one that doesn't blow apart) that has two different mount holes for leverage rates. I weighed the 2017.5 Snowtech 120 and the skid weighs 118lbs. Complete with spindle and ski 137lbs. Rolling resistance is almost non-existent. I can push my bike across the shop floor with two fingers. It is noticeably less than even the new Yeti SS kits that are also belt drive.

The new Yeti SS kit. It is light, and feels very nimble while riding. The SS track is really good, it hooks up and the skinny feels like a dirt bike tire. The parts look nice, everything looks quality. I can noticeably feel the suspension in the skid bottom out compared to the Snowtech. Strength and QC are the main problems. I could give a laundry list of little things that break on these kits, not to mention some of the pulleys that have come on new kits that are out of alignment causing belts to break. The belt covers crack if you hit anything, and the black plastic around the covers crack. The titanium linkage arms on the rails break at the welds. The cross members in between the rails have bolts that come loose, causing the cross members to disappear in the snow. Random Ti bolts come loose in the kit, then they shear off. The spindle center blade cracks/breaks if you hit things, causing the forks tubes to crease. The skid shock cross members break. The new 18 skis break due to lack of support from the short center skag. We have broken 3 skis so far, using 17 skags now. The RRS third shock mounts break. Have had none of those issues on the Snowtech., The Yeti rides nice when you aren't constantly fiddling with it. I'd just rather deal with the extra 20lbs of always working snowbike, and not worry about 300lbs of broken down snowbike when I am up in the mountains.

I briefly rode the ARO kit. Track felt good, shocks are real nice. Kit looks like a pop can in comparison to Snowtech and Yeti. Lots of people are folding up spindles like wet noodles. It has been outsourced to overseas for mass production and it shows, sadly. I loved my 14 TS... "made in USA".

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I know nothing about the Snowtech. I am on a Yeti 129 now. I agree with above post about its weak points. If I was buying a new one today, it would be the CMX. Some concern over no dealer here in the Boise area.
 
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I really like the look of the Snowtech kit. I hope that as a company they don't fall victim to that "Too Big Too Fast" syndrome based on their own sucess.

M5
 
The thing about Snowtech is Jaron had and still has a successful machining business before hand and this is more like a hobby as a result, so it’s not like they are just gonna go under or run out of money like a stand-alone snowbike business would due to a low sales year or anything
 
I know nothing about the Snowtech. I am on a Yeti 129 now. I agree with above post about its weak points. If I was buying a new one today, it would be the CMX. Some concern over no dealer here in the Boise area.
I think you might be worrying about the dealer support more than you need to. Once you get your kit you will not need to get anything else unless you get a new bike then you can just mail you a new fit kit. Like's been said before the kit is durable and setup is easy. I might be missing something but what are you looking for in dealer support?

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