ON-THE-SNOW RIDE IMPRESSIONS: 2016 AXYS-PRO RMK ... OUR DAY IN APINE WYO.
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Why stop at 3 inch track why not 3.4 inches put the hurt on them.
Did they fix the hand warmers because mine suck.
I just looked at the polaris website.
You guys that rode the demos saying it was kind of rough on the trail..........
You were wrong.
http://www.polaris.com/en-us/snowmobiles/2016-axys
What you were feeling was a more compliant and comfortable ride.
Just wanted to clear that up.
You guys that rode the demos saying it was kind of rough on the trail..........
poo-paganda said:
You were wrong.
http://www.polaris.com/en-us/snowmobiles/2016-axys
What you were feeling was a more compliant and comfortable ride.
Just wanted to clear that up.
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rmscustom
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Looks like Polaris caught up to Doo and AC in the suitcase department. lol
Whats really impressive is that they managed to still drop 9lbs with that monstrosity! 395lbish stock sled with a can!
From the pics they dropped one tooth on the lower sprocket. Can not see the tooth count for the top sprocket. Nor the belt tooth count or part number. From scaling the pics the center to center only grew a 1/4" but I could be off that much.
I'm really curious what the actual specs are, when do they release the spec sheet?
My Experience on the 2016 PRO RMK
I've seen how everyone has already posted details about the sled, so I will just post how I felt. This sled was so much fun. First impression was that throttle. Wow, it was so easy to chop. On my 2015 Pro, I'm not gonna lie, my thumb gets a bit tired. Not only was chopping the throttle easy, but the response you got from the new HO engine was immediate. You could make this sled jump out of anything from a stand still. Initiating a downhill to uphill carve took me a second to get use to, because it was quite a bit more responsive. You just look uphill, and it goes there. After half a day of riding, and getting use to it, it started to seem like it might not be that different than my 2015 PRO, so I swapped. Hopped back on the 2015. WOW! I couldn't believe how much different it felt. There was no give when initiating a turn, it was like the whole rear half of the sled had seized up, and became stiff again. It felt like a tank! I honestly cannot wait until next year, to ride one of these every day. The rides we end up going on are pretty challenging, and I am usually exhausted at the end of the day. I believe this sled will leave me plenty of energy for the next day's ride, whatever that may entail! Thank you Polaris for inviting me! This was a great experience!
I've seen how everyone has already posted details about the sled, so I will just post how I felt. This sled was so much fun. First impression was that throttle. Wow, it was so easy to chop. On my 2015 Pro, I'm not gonna lie, my thumb gets a bit tired. Not only was chopping the throttle easy, but the response you got from the new HO engine was immediate. You could make this sled jump out of anything from a stand still. Initiating a downhill to uphill carve took me a second to get use to, because it was quite a bit more responsive. You just look uphill, and it goes there. After half a day of riding, and getting use to it, it started to seem like it might not be that different than my 2015 PRO, so I swapped. Hopped back on the 2015. WOW! I couldn't believe how much different it felt. There was no give when initiating a turn, it was like the whole rear half of the sled had seized up, and became stiff again. It felt like a tank! I honestly cannot wait until next year, to ride one of these every day. The rides we end up going on are pretty challenging, and I am usually exhausted at the end of the day. I believe this sled will leave me plenty of energy for the next day's ride, whatever that may entail! Thank you Polaris for inviting me! This was a great experience!
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fullboredragon
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had to keep real estate for the turbos
why doesn't Polaris put their brake on the trackshaft?
The short version is; The brake can be smaller and lighter when placed on the jackshaft, as it can leverage itself via the gear reduction. If placed on the driveshaft it does not have that leverage and must be upsized accordingly to recover the loss of leverage (read bigger / heavier).
Not sure......this is one thing, if there were any, I dislike about my T3 163. its in the way in the foot well for me. My size 13 Klims need room. it is raw aluminum and snow sticks to it making the foot well that much tighter.
I am glad Polaris came out with a H.O. 800, they needed that. If this were an option last year, I may have chose it over the T3. I did not buy a 2015 Pro, because there were no improvements over the 14 Pro. I chose the T3, for the Etec and the improvements over the previous 2014 model. This sled could have made me buy a polaris..........but I'm good for a while.
I could see this on a high speed trail sled. Maybe. Not very much force required to lock up a track in powder conditions... As all mountain riders know.
But unfortunately the business model the big 4 have used to date is mountain'izing the trail sled. Until we see the separation of that business model we will be forced to deal with the trail sled capable brakes. On top of that the legal department will likely never allow the mountain sled to have any less than that because we'll always have the Jack Wagon Flatlander that insists on riding the mountain sled like a ice racer. Again JMO
Wow, thanks for all the reviews on the sled. At first look, it doesn't look that much different than a pro, but after studying quite a bit I notice a ton of changes.
-The tunnel is much shallower, like 2-3" which is noticeable if you look at the belt drive plate drop
-Straight taper on the tunnel from front to back
-The running board rear bracket is shorter to accommodate the shallower tunnel
-Rear suspension drop brackets are longer and powdercoated to reduce snow build up
-The rear suspension scissor arm looks longer
-Rear suspension using some different type of hardware, more torx heads used and different rail snub
-Simplified bulkhead, one piece for the bridge between the tunnel and the front cast piece
-Brake caliper looks smaller and positioned to the rear of the sled like the chain case models
-Steering post mounting is quite a bit different
-A arms look very strong and clean, very happy to see them go away from the bonded arms. I wished for a 36" though(maybe a new model on March 2?)
-Not sure what is different on the WE shocks other than it looks to be made out of a different material or coating.
-Cool spare belt holder
-Lots of weight to lose on the can
-Good to see a lower gear ratio specific for deep snow applications
- Better snow block off plates on the running boards to the engine bay
-Handle bar doesn't have a pad anymore and a new mtn bar that's shorter
That is just looking at the pics. I am super excited to what polaris reveals on March 2nd. I too would like to see some more painted/powder coating, a 3" lug, better shock option, and a 36" front end.
-The tunnel is much shallower, like 2-3" which is noticeable if you look at the belt drive plate drop
-Straight taper on the tunnel from front to back
-The running board rear bracket is shorter to accommodate the shallower tunnel
-Rear suspension drop brackets are longer and powdercoated to reduce snow build up
-The rear suspension scissor arm looks longer
-Rear suspension using some different type of hardware, more torx heads used and different rail snub
-Simplified bulkhead, one piece for the bridge between the tunnel and the front cast piece
-Brake caliper looks smaller and positioned to the rear of the sled like the chain case models
-Steering post mounting is quite a bit different
-A arms look very strong and clean, very happy to see them go away from the bonded arms. I wished for a 36" though(maybe a new model on March 2?)
-Not sure what is different on the WE shocks other than it looks to be made out of a different material or coating.
-Cool spare belt holder
-Lots of weight to lose on the can
-Good to see a lower gear ratio specific for deep snow applications
- Better snow block off plates on the running boards to the engine bay
-Handle bar doesn't have a pad anymore and a new mtn bar that's shorter
That is just looking at the pics. I am super excited to what polaris reveals on March 2nd. I too would like to see some more painted/powder coating, a 3" lug, better shock option, and a 36" front end.
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westhawk39
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As somebody who rides 1/2 flatlands and 1/2 mountains i have to disagree with your statement.
Brakes on a trail sled must be strong enough to stop the weight of the sled on a groomed trail. Trails are mainly icy and hard and very minimal braking force is required to get the track to lock up and slide. (Like a car with all season tires on an ice road in winter)
A mountain sled on the other hand has a track with at least 10" more contact on the snow, lugs 2x as tall and is typically ridden on softer snow which the track has excellent traction in. More similar to a car with studded tires.
Thats a basic comparison but if you really want to get analytic, a trail sleds brakes are used for 2-3 seconds approaching a corner where a mountain sleds brakes could be used for up to 30 seconds descending a steep pitch. You need a much better brake with a larger rotor to dissipate the heat created in scenario 2.
And please dont say a skilled rider doesn't brake for that long, you never know, and you never want to find out. We live in a world of over-engineering and somebody with a trail sled could find them self in mountain like conditions after a large snowfall and likewise a mountain sled is often found flying down groomed trail off the mountain
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