I just got a set of 43" z bros a arms and Exis X1 shocks. I have a 11 assault switchback and I want to use the swaybar setup on these a arms. Has anyone had the a arms modify to run swaybars? Would I have to have the shocks revalved? I do not run my sled in the mountains I am more of a trail riding and boondock off trail in the UP. I dont want to loose my trail handling on this sled. Thanks
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I'm pretty sure that Z-Broz has clamp on swabar tabs avail.
I know that Holz sells one, not sure if the diameter of the a arm tubes is the same on Z-Bros.
Might be worth checking out.
hey bud.
i have the same setup on one of my rmk 900s. ZBROZ usually valves their shocks so you dont have a use a sway bar...if yours are valved for that setup, it will perform just as if you have teh sway bar.
if you dont know if they are valved, or still want to use the swaybar, the NEW style zbroz arms have a built in bracket to use the 09-up swaybar..you will know for sure if your cross shaft in the arms has a tab coming off with a hole in it.
if you dont have the tab then you have the previous version arms and you will need to get the clamp on brackets from zbroz ($40 or so) and you just clamp it to the arms and mount your sway bar to that bracket.
here is one of my setups with the clamp on brackets (brackets are raw material, mine are powder coated orange)
hope that helps...
i have the same setup on one of my rmk 900s. ZBROZ usually valves their shocks so you dont have a use a sway bar...if yours are valved for that setup, it will perform just as if you have teh sway bar.
if you dont know if they are valved, or still want to use the swaybar, the NEW style zbroz arms have a built in bracket to use the 09-up swaybar..you will know for sure if your cross shaft in the arms has a tab coming off with a hole in it.
if you dont have the tab then you have the previous version arms and you will need to get the clamp on brackets from zbroz ($40 or so) and you just clamp it to the arms and mount your sway bar to that bracket.
here is one of my setups with the clamp on brackets (brackets are raw material, mine are powder coated orange)
hope that helps...
Sean, I used to think the same thing about valving... spring rates (Or air pressure) have the most to do with removing the sway bar and getting decent performance out of the setup... valving can help a bit, but it comes down to the fact that you are removing spring force from the sled when you drop the sway bar since the shocks do not "share" springs as connected thru the swaybar.
IMO, the standard float shocks (NON Float-2 or EVOL) are poor choices without a swaybar.
The standard floats get harsh in the last 1/3rd of travel as you have to crank up the air pressure to compensate for the swaybar removal...and the pressure climbs exponentially without the chamber in the last part of the stroke. Night and day diff with the Float-2 or EVOL (if you have std floats and are going to upgrade... IMO... Do the Float-2 upgrade rather than the EVOL upgrade. The Float 2 gives you improved internals (better piston, high volume air cap, neg air-spring) whereas the EVOL only gives you the added chamber volume. The EVOL upgrade was designed as an upgrade for Float-2 shocks. The biggest diff would be from the Float-2 upgrade... But I do understand that the EVOL Looks cooler.
IMO, the standard float shocks (NON Float-2 or EVOL) are poor choices without a swaybar.
The standard floats get harsh in the last 1/3rd of travel as you have to crank up the air pressure to compensate for the swaybar removal...and the pressure climbs exponentially without the chamber in the last part of the stroke. Night and day diff with the Float-2 or EVOL (if you have std floats and are going to upgrade... IMO... Do the Float-2 upgrade rather than the EVOL upgrade. The Float 2 gives you improved internals (better piston, high volume air cap, neg air-spring) whereas the EVOL only gives you the added chamber volume. The EVOL upgrade was designed as an upgrade for Float-2 shocks. The biggest diff would be from the Float-2 upgrade... But I do understand that the EVOL Looks cooler.
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^^ well said Eric. thanks for the clarification...and it does make perfect sense...
i also agree with the sway bar is a MUST have for certain shocks...
i also agree with the sway bar is a MUST have for certain shocks...
Yes^^^
But I found even the Evol R's did not compensate for the sway bar removed on the IQ chassis (yes, I know we are talking Pro chassis here). Too much sloop and I found that the shocks were handling so much differently.
I have the X1's on my Pro with the stock a-arms and sway bar. I wanted the ZBroz a-arms but they didn't have any at the time. I sent the shocks back and had them re-valved and they work awesome now! The Pro comes over so easily I don't know why you would remove the sway bar. If you ride on trails in the UP, I wouldn't take the sway bar off. This sled is already very tippy.
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gman086
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Wha?! That's certainly NOT the case with mine! Again, Tom Dines has his own proprietary hi-flow pistons in his Evols (that FOX installs for his shocks at their factory) as well as negative spring. And I assume you meant high volume air can instead of cap? Maybe that's why I have a much better opinion of the Evols than the others in this forum? Also, from what I understand, Fox has reverse engineered Tom's version and updated the Evol dramatically in 201 So... if you're basing your opinions on the old version... well that's just not right!
Have FUN!
G MAN
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