Oil spill dejavu'
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DOO DAWG
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Post a poll on that one and I believe you would be in the unanimous majority!!That is scary!
I don't think they are looking for sympathy....they didn't want this to happen and want it to stop as bad as anyone. Big spills tend to be bad for business but are a known risk. Most anything worthwhile involves risk.
In this example, it seems the risk was much much more then just BP potential losses. It will be interesting to see how the company is able put a dollar amount on the ecological damage it has and is causing.
I think we'll still be talking about this in another year, maybe 5.... 10 years from now anyone that gets cancer in that region will be suing BP over the chemicals used....this will be dragged out for 20 years. What a mess 
Don't you think it funny that no foreign countries have been allowed to help? could it be the prez denied the offers to put more pressure on cap a trade legislation? makes you wonder.......
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RMK7SledHead
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Who's gonna help? The Brits? We've already got their top people in this department working on it (BP).
Who do YOU think can add to this endeavor and get it stopped sooner?
I agree 100% with winterbrew...BP wants this stopped just as fast as everyone else.
well all i know is that i am just so sad over the whole ordeal...its tear jerking..and no end in sight..i just really wish there was an answer...but i think we are in for a wait..i think of the 4 minute mile being broken decades ago...a man on the moon..space rovers on mars...and we are held hostage one mile underwater..???..i guess we should have learned to walk before we flew..
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Desperado
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History has shown the only way to stop this leak is by relief wells. Those pressures at those depths are beyond imagination. Not to disount the bladder suggestion but look you have to fish this thing through 5000 ft of water, the head pressure alone at the pipe is 12000 psi not to mention the 18000 feet of pipe below the surface of the water on a 21in pipe funnelling (pushing) the oil up out of the res against this pressure is tremendous. They tried pumping (top Kill) with a 30000HP pump pushing 80 barrells of mud a min down that hole and could not over come the pressure of the oil coming up. IN FACT they were worrried the they may have put to much pressure on the pipe and may have compromised it slightly. Sooo putting that bladder in inflating it holding the oil back sounds good but run a huge risk that probably will show no better results than other methods. Lets just hope they get those wells drilled as quickly as possible. WE ALL want the oil to stop.
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sw Pub
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I really have a hard time looking at the time lapse that has taken place without suspecting the government of taking advantage of another disaster. I suspect there are some in government that thought letting this thing play out a month or so would be good for some pending legislation ... and then when things got out of hand, their ineptness sort of took over.
BP also has a recent history with the powers to be in our government. Whether they went along or are being used will be open for a lot of speculation.
I believe the president has no control over the situation (whether that is by choice or by proxy) and is absolutely the wrong man for the job.
Just like when 911 happened and the our country gave that collective sigh of relief that Gore wasn't in control, most are now probably wishing that Bush was around to get us out of this mess (besides, would have been better for the media to pin the blame on him).
I pray our country can survive two and a half more years of the kind of leadership we have now. But I can pretty much promise you ... it's going to leave a mark.
BP also has a recent history with the powers to be in our government. Whether they went along or are being used will be open for a lot of speculation.
I believe the president has no control over the situation (whether that is by choice or by proxy) and is absolutely the wrong man for the job.
Just like when 911 happened and the our country gave that collective sigh of relief that Gore wasn't in control, most are now probably wishing that Bush was around to get us out of this mess (besides, would have been better for the media to pin the blame on him).
I pray our country can survive two and a half more years of the kind of leadership we have now. But I can pretty much promise you ... it's going to leave a mark.
this oilspill is used as an argument not to drill for oil outside the coast of Lofoten here in Norway. guess we cant come in on the UNESCO world inheritage list if we let some development happend. from before we're on the national tourist-road list, so we cant widen our roads. They must be the way they are (6 meters and narrower)
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TurboMatt
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To start off, I think this whole oil spill deal really, really sucks for everyone. It's a huge and complete disaster.
But people say, "the risks aren't worth it". These will be the same people yelling the loudest if gas prices would sour because they stop all off shore drilling altogether. And they are the same people yelling to stop our dependance on foreign oil. This is why these off shore rigs are drilled, to help stop the dependance. And of course they plan on making money LOTS of money. Like was said, there are some smart people working on the cleanup. It's easy to judge sitting behind a keyboard. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the risks are worth it.
Would we rather face something like this every 30 years (as the pattern seems to be)..or have to pay higher fuel prices all the time....and anything else made from oil
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TurboMatt
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My point exactly.Would we rather face something like this every 30 years (as the pattern seems to be)..or have to pay higher fuel prices all the time....and anything else made from oil
If anything we should be mad at Big Oil for not having a better disaster plan together. Because if history has though us anything, spills are gonna happen no matter how careful we are.
Unfortunately, I'm sure there are alot out there who strongly disagree.
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I am yelling to stop drilling in the ocean if they can't do it safely, and I don't scream if gas prices would increase, actually I think they should increase. As to soar, I don't think so.
Some stats on oil production by location..
Some more stats..
The gulf coast produces about 268 thousand barrels per day. The total oil production is 85,472 thousand barrels per day. The gulf coast represents only 0.314% of all oil production. It seems nothing would really happen if the gulf coast stopped producing oil. Well, we would be importing more..
I yell that, well sort of. foreign oil or our own oil. They are the same exact thing, and the price will always be the same too. They are sold on the market, there is no difference between the price.
So a foreign company is drilling in the gulf of mexico to help limit our dependence on foreign oil? The problem is and always has been our dependence on oil. It doesn't matter where it comes from...
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TurboMatt
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I'm not agruing about this. Anything we say really doesn't make any difference anyways, so whats the point.
It sure is fun getting people 'riled-up' though.lol
Who is arguing? Just pointing out how some of your basic assumptions are incorrect, that is all.
To understand other peoples point of view?
When is this going to happen? Sounds like fun!!
