Oil delete

[moly may]

I really hope this hasnt been covered yet, but im sure it has. I cant seem to get the search engine to work for me most of the time. Any way is there ANY way possible to do a oil injection deleat on these pro's? Thanks you in advance!

 

[classic-indy]

Yeah, but it would be a monumental amount of work. Why would you want to?

 

[TRS]

Nope

 

[moly may]

Super easy throttle pull, Knowing the motor is getting the right amount of lube, weight loss, and they just seem to run better is my reasoning behind the madness. So what would you concider monumental? I have one yea, and one ney.

 

[Lorduss]

the common theme i come across when reading this idea is that the only way the bearings get oil is directly, so the oil in your fuel is not going to lube your bearings hardly if at all.

 

[ak]

I heard it could be done if you dissemble the motor and drill holes in the top half of the case, to allow fuel and oil to get to the bearings. There was a guy on BCR that was doing that.

 

[likkerpig]

How do you consistently guarantee the bottom end gets enough oil?

 

[AKrider]

The IQ 600R race sled motor is set up that way with premix. I seized a center crank bearing. I don't feel it works good enough. The 600R uses the same bottom end as the 800.

 

[ak]

The IQ 600R race sled motor is set up that way with premix. I seized a center crank bearing. I don't feel it works good enough. The 600R uses the same bottom end as the 800.

We're you the one on BCR who tried this on a 800 pro? If so it didn't work?

 

[moly may]

I heard it could be done if you dissemble the motor and drill holes in the top half of the case, to allow fuel and oil to get to the bearings. There was a guy on BCR that was doing that.

I would be down with that if i was 100% assured of the proper lubrication. Just dont see why its possible on the cats and doo, but the poo..?

 

[dropitp*ssy]

I've been curious about this as well, I would think there should be a way to do it

The IQ 600R race sled motor is set up that way with premix. I seized a center crank bearing. I don't feel it works good enough. The 600R uses the same bottom end as the 800.

IQR is a carbed motor isn't it? That is completely different than the cfi motor where the mixture isn't injected until the transfer ports and never fills the case

I have been curious as to whether opening up oil drains to the bearings would be enough to feed the bearings

How about adding grease zerks to the case to give a couple pumps before each ride?

 

[moly may]

I agree there has to be a "successful" way. Too much technology in todays world to not. Werent some of the doo guys leaving a oil line that fed to the pump? Or was that just for something in the pump, but if so your at that point not using the pump anymore??

 

[ak]

I agree there has to be a "successful" way. Too much technology in todays world to not. Werent some of the doo guys leaving a oil line that fed to the pump? Or was that just for something in the pump, but if so your at that point not using the pump anymore??

On the doo motor ( non etec) they run a small bottle to lube the water pump shaft. And the crank bearings have grease in them. If you could grease the bearings on the pro it wouldn't be much different the ski doo.

 

[AK IQ Pilot]

I really hope this hasnt been covered yet, but im sure it has. I cant seem to get the search engine to work for me most of the time. Any way is there ANY way possible to do a oil injection deleat on these pro's? Thanks you in advance!

The best answer you will receive to this question is: NO.

Nope

Exactly.

the common theme i come across when reading this idea is that the only way the bearings get oil is directly, so the oil in your fuel is not going to lube your bearings hardly if at all.

100% correct. No amount of fuel gets to the crank case on a CFI2 motor. So, no oil mixed with fuel would ever reach the rotating assembly.

I heard it could be done if you dissemble the motor and drill holes in the top half of the case, to allow fuel and oil to get to the bearings. There was a guy on BCR that was doing that.

There was a guy on BCR last year that CLAIMED to have done it. When questioned about how he was getting lubrication to the bearings and water pump gears he clammed right up.

I agree there has to be a "successful" way. Too much technology in todays world to not. Werent some of the doo guys leaving a oil line that fed to the pump? Or was that just for something in the pump, but if so your at that point not using the pump anymore??

You want more oil to lubricate the rotating assembly, just turn up the oil pump. It's simple and very effective.

 

[moly may]

The best answer you will receive to this question is: NO.




Exactly.



100% correct. No amount of fuel gets to the crank case on a CFI2 motor. So, no oil mixed with fuel would ever reach the rotating assembly.



There was a guy on BCR last year that CLAIMED to have done it. When questioned about how he was getting lubrication to the bearings and water pump gears he clammed right up.




You want more oil to lubricate the rotating assembly, just turn up the oil pump. It's simple and very effective.

Not really what i wanted to hear, but thats why i ask before just doing it. Not giving up yet though. Thanks for all the input guys

 

[geo]

You would need to take the injector out of the port and put it into the throttle body and recalibrate your engine management from there.

As well as the other stuff done to the other motors.

 

[ak]

So drill the case and run carbs that should make it work.

 

[geo]

Sure would.

 

[Reg2view]

Get a carbed sled or a suzuki 800 (throttle body injected).

Anyone who has enough time and/or money to try and do this to a CFI2 has, well, too much time and/or money.

 

[geo]

Or maybe just a strong desire to return to simpler and safer times for two strokes. Like before the EPA.