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Obama has lost his FREAKIN mind!!!

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WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Tuesday challenged Congress to pay for new increases in federal benefit programs as it goes rather than sink the nation deeper into a debt, calling it a matter of public responsibility. U have to be kidding me!!!

Republicans lashed back that Obama is no voice of fiscal restraint as the deficit soars.

The president's plan would require Congress to pay for new entitlement spending, such as health care, by raising taxes or coming up with budget cuts — a "pay-as-you-go" system that would have the force of law. Under the proposal, if new spending or tax reductions are not offset, there would be automatic cuts in so-called mandatory programs — although Social Security payments and some other programs would be exempt.

Not noted by the president: Tuesday's plan is a watered-down version of the so-called "PAYGO" rules proposed just last month in his own budget plan.

That version would have required, on average, all affected legislation to be paid for in the very first year. The new plan only requires such legislation to be financed over the coming decade. That mirrors congressional rules and reflects the likelihood that health care reform will add to the deficit in the early years.

Obama said the principle is simple: Congress can only spend a dollar if it saves a dollar somewhere else.

"It is no coincidence that this rule was in place when we moved from record deficits to record surpluses in the 1990s — and that when this rule was abandoned, we returned to record deficits that doubled the national debt," Obama said, flanked at the White House by supportive Democratic lawmakers.

"Entitlement increases and tax cuts need to be paid for," he said. "They're not free, and borrowing to finance them is not a sustainable long-term policy."

Republican leaders, critical of the Obama-championed $787 billion stimulus package and other deficit spending, called the president disingenuous.

"It's as if the administration and these Democrat leaders are living in an alternate universe," said House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia. "The quickest way to save money is to stop recklessly spending it."

The pay-as-you-go rules would not apply to discretionary spending — the portion that Congress decides how to spend each year — which accounts for almost 40 percent of the budget, said Peter Orszag, the administration's budget director.

Obama's call for binding legislation comes as a reward to moderate-to-conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats who are big believers in pay-as-you go. Their votes were crucial to passing a congressional budget blueprint that generally follows Obama's budget.

The House and Senate already have their own PAYGO rules, but have routinely found ways around them. For example, a bill to effectively double GI Bill education benefits was enacted last year because of a loophole in congressional rules.

Obama's "PAYGO" plan would also require future tax cuts to be financed by tax increases elsewhere in the code, though exceptions are made for extending President George W. Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, as well as other tax cuts that are scheduled to expire.

The federal deficit is on pace to explode past $1.8 trillion this year, more than four times last year's all-time high.

The deficit figures flow from the deep recession, the Wall Street bailout and the cost of the economic stimulus bill. Obama has defended the massive stimulus plan as essential to helping pump some life back in the economy, one that is still shedding jobs but showing more signs of life in recent weeks.

"The fact is, there are few who aren't distressed by deficits," Obama said. He said restoring a pay-as-you-go method under law would force lawmakers to deal not just with the politics and crises of the day, but also remain fixed on the nation's long-term financial health.








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"rather than sink the nation deeper into a debt, calling it a matter of public responsibility"



Man that is Killing me!!! Kinda like closing the Gate after the cow run out :mad:
What a tool this guy is:eek:










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Here, let me put us faster into debt than every president in history combined and then come up here and talk to you about fiscal restraint.

What a joke.
 
All that spending and nothing to show for it! Where did all that spendulous money go? We haven't seen any of it here in CO!

As of 2 weeks ago only 6% of what was slotted to be spent has been spent, China refused to by the T-Bills needed to make stimulus happen so there was a serious rethink before spending.

Ooooop's :D
 
It should be about now that everybody that voted for him realizes what a f*** up it was to vote for him, and that they should of pulled their heads out of there arses awhile ago.:eek:
 
His poll numbers are in the mid to upper 50's for the first time.
Read an article that said more people trust the republicans on financial matters than democrats.
I am will to bet there are some dems that are starting to worry about 2010.
 
This isn't the Obama administration trying to sound fiscally responsible, nor is it a payback of blue-dog democrats, it is a foundation for massive tax increases. They have already spent mind boggling amounts of money on stimulus et.al. but in my mind the one-time stimulous spending pales in comparison to the single-payer health care that the dems have been pied-pipering.

So, start the process of convincing the 50% plus of the proletariat that effectively don't pay federal tax that government health insurance is a great idea. That should be easy because after all it is something for nothing. Than, pass pay-go because it will make government "fiscally responsible". Finally, get universal health care through the congress, while enacting massive tax increases on the "wealthy" to pay for it all!
 
Than, pass pay-go because it will make government "fiscally responsible". Finally, get universal health care through the congress, while enacting massive tax increases on the "wealthy" to pay for it all!

Could you please define "wealthy" because I don't make much but I'll bet I have to pay.:mad:
 
Ohhhh Timmy what are we going to do?

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/06/geithner_brings_the_laughs_in.html

June 09, 2009
Geithner Brings the Laughs In China
By John Tamny
Though the U.S. press mostly withheld mention of it last week, the international media had a big laugh over Treasury Secretary Geithner’s visit to China. Apparently more aware of the dollar’s withering condition than our chief dollar steward – a scary thought on its face – they clearly understood the audience laughter when Geithner told Chinese students that dollar-denominated “Chinese assets are very safe.”

It doesn’t take an in-over-his-head Treasury secretary to understand that when the dollar is falling, the assets that pay out those dollars are necessarily imperiled. The Chinese, and all holders of U.S. Treasuries are necessarily skeptical, and with good reason. Whereas a dollar bought 1/250th of an ounce of gold in 2001, as of this writing it only buys 1/960th. Despite this stupendous collapse in the unit of account, Geithner remarkably believes that our federal debt is a good bet.


For this alone, it’s hard to be optimistic about the dollar’s future prospects. When Treasury heads exhibit total ignorance about its value, and in Geithner’s case a sanguine countenance, this is a signal that the greenback is being ignored and that further weakness will be accepted.

Worse if that’s possible is Geithner’s stance on the very inflation that the above dollar weakness represents. As he told U.S. reporters last week, the Chinese “understand and have confidence in the Fed’s capacity to keep inflation low and stable over time.” Implicit in a statement pregnant with meaning is that Geithner shares the Fed’s absurd view that inflation is an economic growth concept that can be controlled through interest-rate machinations that supposedly fine-tune economic activity.

What this means is that true inflation, something that is always and everywhere the result of declining currency values, will be ignored in favor of central management over the economy. That economic growth of any kind has nothing to do with inflation doesn’t seem to trouble our Treasury secretary. Instead, he’ll apparently accept the dollar’s inflationary decline while allowing the Fed to make interest rate guesses that frequently end in tears. Is it any wonder that investors are growing increasingly skeptical about our private capacity to support the debt issued by Washington?

Rising Treasury rates suggest investors are growing very skeptical, and further statements by Geithner offer clues as to why. Sure enough, he mimicked his Treasury predecessors in the Bush administration with his comment that “We…welcome their commitment over time to move to a more flexible, market-determined exchange rate.”

Translated, Geithner underscored his untroubled conscience about the dollar’s decline with his statement about flexible exchange rates. What he actually meant was that China’s manipulation of the yuan doesn’t bother him so long as its value increases relative to the dollar. The Chinese currency can rise versus the dollar either through a strengthened yuan, or, and this is more likely the case, thanks to an even more debased dollar. In short, Geithner talks about sound U.S. assets out of one side of the mouth, and then out of the other he accepts further dollar decline that will necessarily make them less valuable.
 
Email I got.
April 27, 2009

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington , DC 20500

Mr. Obama:

I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally. You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United States .

You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth. I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe ? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about?

Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century? Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States ? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?

Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia . You don't show Great Britain , our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia . How dare you, sir! How dare you!

You can't find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey . You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. What's the matter with you?

I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you. You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.

What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members -- on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a
17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer.

You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't! Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million -- not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now.

I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.

Sincerely,

Every Real American

P.S. I rarely ask that emails be 'passed around'.............


PLEASE SEND THIS TO YOUR EMAIL LIST......it's past time for all Americans to wake up!

Ms Kathleen Lyday
Fourth Grade Teacher
Grandview Elementary School
11470 Hwy. C Hillsboro , MO 63050
(636) 944-3291 Phone
(636) 944-3870 Fax
 
Pay-as-you-go is the way that average Americans live their lives but it is a concept

June 10, 2009
PayGo Fiasco
Eric Burton

So, have you heard of "PayGo?" No, that is not the name of some Pagan God or even the newest character in the Pokémon arsenal it is the latest incarnation of the incongruent schizophrenia of the Obama administration. The President explained it like this, "if Congress spends a dollar they have to save a dollar."

Of course the President qualified this latest iteration of fiscal responsibility only after polling was released showing that his administration was failing when it came to economic policies. Pay-as-you-go was a popular theme during the run-up to the election but it mysteriously vanished after Obama's inauguration. What we have seen since is an explosion in government and budgets and deficits that only a demented proud mother of a dysfunctional robber baron could be proud of.


This latest manifestation of Obamanomics rears its ugly head as they attempt to add to the discussion the topic of "pay-as-you-go" on the heels of the rhetoric regarding ramping up the spending of stimulus money Monday. I'm not sure who the bigger fool is, the American people if they buy this line of crap or the Obama administration for slinging this slop in the first place. Isn't the cry to shut the barn door a bit disingenuous at this point since the horse is already a mile down the road? Current spending and projected budgets negate any hope of a pay-as-you-go philosophy therefore one can only conclude that this is nothing more than a lie meant to placate the electorate.


Pay-as-you-go is the way that average Americans live their lives but it is a concept that is completely lost in the deluded minds of the mental midgets wandering the halls in Washington. It is a common sense approach and requires fiscal discipline, something that has become a foreign concept to our elected officials. For Barack Obama to step forward at this point in time after having spent trillions, with trillions more ahead to be spent on issues such as healthcare and billions to be spent on the continued bailouts of companies like GM, any hope for a pay-as-you-go system is nothing more than political hyperbole.

What this country needed was a leader who can step in and immediately make the hard choices, instead we got a leader that sought popularity by opening an all you can consume money buffet. I'm sorry that I have to keep saying this but when the government spends billions on GM, billions on the bank, billions on insurance companies and promise to spend close to $2 trillion on their version of a utopian healthcare system remember this, our government doesn't make money, they take money, your money.

These programs and bailouts are all funded 100% with tax dollars, your tax dollars. So ask yourself, would you have given your hard earned money to GM, AIG and Wall Street? Would you spend your hard-earned money creating a healthcare system that in the end will deliver less and cost all of us more? Wake up America! These *** clowns are playing with your money like this was a game of Monopoly. For all you know "PayGo" was misinterpreted by Obama's economic mental midgets as "Pass Go" collect $200 because they are still standing there with their hand out.
 
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