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Now the King of America says some 50 American cities need to be BULLDOZED!

Yup, I couldn't believe it either. Reported in the British press, never reported on our gov't biased media.
This guy is a total madman. :mad:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/5516536/US-cities-may-have-to-be-bulldozed-in-order-to-survive.html

US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

By Tom Leonard in Flint, Michigan
Published: 6:30PM BST 12 Jun 2009

A boarded up house sits for sale in Michigan. Photo: GETTY
The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.


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Pakistan's Red Mosque siege cleric freed on bailThe radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.

Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.

Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.

Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.

In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

"The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity."

Karina Pallagst, director of the Shrinking Cities in a Global Perspective programme at the University of California, Berkeley, said there was "both a cultural and political taboo" about admitting decline in America.

"Places like Flint have hit rock bottom. They're at the point where it's better to start knocking a lot of buildings down," she said.

Flint, sixty miles north of Detroit, was the original home of General Motors. The car giant once employed 79,000 local people but that figure has shrunk to around 8,000.

Unemployment is now approaching 20 per cent and the total population has almost halved to 110,000.

The exodus – particularly of young people – coupled with the consequent collapse in property prices, has left street after street in sections of the city almost entirely abandoned.

In the city centre, the once grand Durant Hotel – named after William Durant, GM's founder – is a symbol of the city's decline, said Mr Kildee. The large building has been empty since 1973, roughly when Flint's decline began.

Regarded as a model city in the motor industry's boom years, Flint may once again be emulated, though for very different reasons.

But Mr Kildee, who has lived there nearly all his life, said he had first to overcome a deeply ingrained American cultural mindset that "big is good" and that cities should sprawl – Flint covers 34 square miles.

He said: "The obsession with growth is sadly a very American thing. Across the US, there's an assumption that all development is good, that if communities are growing they are successful. If they're shrinking, they're failing."

But some Flint dustcarts are collecting just one rubbish bag a week, roads are decaying, police are very understaffed and there were simply too few people to pay for services, he said.

If the city didn't downsize it will eventually go bankrupt, he added.

Flint's recovery efforts have been helped by a new state law passed a few years ago which allowed local governments to buy up empty properties very cheaply.

They could then knock them down or sell them on to owners who will occupy them. The city wants to specialise in health and education services, both areas which cannot easily be relocated abroad.

The local authority has restored the city's attractive but formerly deserted centre but has pulled down 1,100 abandoned homes in outlying areas.

Mr Kildee estimated another 3,000 needed to be demolished, although the city boundaries will remain the same.

Already, some streets peter out into woods or meadows, no trace remaining of the homes that once stood there.

Choosing which areas to knock down will be delicate but many of them were already obvious, he said.

The city is buying up houses in more affluent areas to offer people in neighbourhoods it wants to demolish. Nobody will be forced to move, said Mr Kildee.

"Much of the land will be given back to nature. People will enjoy living near a forest or meadow," he said.

Mr Kildee acknowledged that some fellow Americans considered his solution "defeatist" but he insisted it was "no more defeatist than pruning an overgrown tree so it can bear fruit again".
 
Then there's this line: ""Much of the land will be given back to nature. People will enjoy living near a forest or meadow," he said.

You can bet once the govt gets ahold of these bulldozed homesteads, nobody will ever be allowed to build on them.
Another land grab in the making. :mad:
 
I volunteer right now to run a bulldozer in Chicago. I WOULD LOVE IT. JUST PUSH IT OFF INTO THE LAKE. No one has more experience than I have.
 
Apparently none of them have ever been to Flint, Mi., not the greatest city on earth, but not a great metopolis either. It's set inside Mi farming country not a place where people have far to got to get to the forest or meadow, its a town that just needs jobs, a refocussed base.

But Fla's housing base is on the rise. There is not a sign of re-newal but people leaving the midwest job base for 'so called' greener pastures of FLa, a state with 'NO' job base.
I am greatfull to have come from and grown up in FL (luv my home state, and what it once was), but it wil be the next great depression state, look at the overall housing market, highest in foreclosures. Its tourist dollars that drive the state and the economy, not real job base.

Then there's this line: ""Much of the land will be given back to nature. People will enjoy living near a forest or meadow," he said.

You can bet once the govt gets ahold of these bulldozed homesteads, nobody will ever be allowed to build on them.
Another land grab in the making. :mad:
 
The politicians drive all the manufacturing overseas and the people into major city centers then complain because the areas that used to support manufacturing have turned into chitholes.

Now they want to bulldoze the areas so they can spend billions in payback to the enviros for new public lands.

On the face of it, I think it might be a good idea.
To bad I don't trust anyone in washington to not have a darker purpose.
 
How bout we just put all the greenies in a city and let each of us have a bulldozer and push them into the ground...yea that sounds good.
 
Ollie
you have he on most of your posts in agreement, hopefully you can clarify a bit on this one.

I think I got you, but would it not be better to re-use/re-tool these past manufacturing areas(than spend billions to make green areas). Outsorced labor is great and cheap, as is the return to industry, but I think we are seeing the return in crap products. Once we end the union stranglehold on the manufacturing industry(its unions that are destroying the labor force in the US, oops, soap box), would we not return manufacturing to the US. My opinion/ 0.1 cent based upon the dollar.
 
I think ever city they listed is a "Union" city. Memphis probably isn't very Union. But, it has it's own problems. There's parts of every major city, that could just be pushed into a hole.

I don't trust the government either, but some cities need to be cleaned up. Meth houses and homeless, are all there good for now.

We need to get back to manufacturing things.
 
The thing that makes me go HMMMMMMM is that there are other states in the Union that will give industrial manufacturers tax breaks etc. in order to get them to build plants and employ people in their states. I think it's time for people to stop thinking like Americans and start thinking like North Dakotans, Minnesotans, Michiganites etc. The Rust Belt isn't dead. It's just moved to Alabama where there's a state government willing and able to bend over and "give".
 
Why not start with Washington DC that is the worst slum in the nation. Swampy:D:beer;

Thats no chit! I was out there in 07 for some training and was seriously appalled at how bad the area is just blocks from the white house. It looked like a gang run wonderland.
 
Why not start with Washington DC that is the worst slum in the nation. Swampy:D:beer;

I grew up 20 min north of flint & have not been back in 20 years, It was bad then & the family tells me it's worse now, Unemployment leads to drugs & crime which flint is full of.

The wife & I went to Richmond Va to the NASCAR race, On the way home I made a wrong turn due to traffic & ended up in the slum of DC (Ya know guys dont ask for directions;)) Anyhow I spotted a 7-11 with a cop in the parking lot, I pulled up parked next to his car & waited for the officer to come out. This black officer turned white when he seen me sitting there & said dude WTF are you doing here? He said this is no place for a white person & made us follow him back to the highway.

If any of you have never seen these areas & total teardown is all thats left.... Just not on our dime.

I've been to Detroits Evergreen & Greenfield area & it's pure slum with burned out cars half parked in the streets because city workers will not go into the areas because of crime. Many of the street thugs will not go north of 8 mile because they have the cops & judges on their payroll for wayne county & okland county does not play that way.
 
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The thing that makes me go HMMMMMMM is that there are other states in the Union that will give industrial manufacturers tax breaks etc. in order to get them to build plants and employ people in their states. I think it's time for people to stop thinking like Americans and start thinking like North Dakotans, Minnesotans, Michiganites etc. The Rust Belt isn't dead. It's just moved to Alabama where there's a state government willing and able to bend over and "give".

True, 2 years ago Comerica Bank wanted to stay in Detroit & they asked our gov Granholm to match the tax bracket that texas was offering. She said no it could not be afforded, That was another 300 jobs that left michigan. Now I am sure those 300 jobs & the taxes their familys pay would have more than covered the tax break.:confused:
 
Ollie
you have he on most of your posts in agreement, hopefully you can clarify a bit on this one.

I think I got you, but would it not be better to re-use/re-tool these past manufacturing areas(than spend billions to make green areas). Outsorced labor is great and cheap, as is the return to industry, but I think we are seeing the return in crap products. Once we end the union stranglehold on the manufacturing industry(its unions that are destroying the labor force in the US, oops, soap box), would we not return manufacturing to the US. My opinion/ 0.1 cent based upon the dollar.

We could get manufacturing back in the U.S. in no time at all.
We just need to put the tax liability under the amount imposed by other countries. The problem is, we have forced a lot of buisness out of this country so they can survive. The U.S. tax rate is 8 - 12% higher than most other industrialized nations and it's growing.

The other problem with some of the areas proposed to be bulldosed is infastructure.

We could go in and bring everything up to speed and make them nice areas again, but without the manufacturing jobs, it would just fall apart again.

Heres another problem. Policing the areas in question. Run down, POS, neighbor hoods are magnets for criminals and lowlifes that move into abandoned homes.

And the kicker, it isn't the governments job to force prosperity. The Government may have destroyed a lot of it with their non-stop medling, but it still isn't their job (with our money) to bring it back. If an area has fallen so far into disrepair, why should the taxpayers continue to pay to maintain the roads, police the areas and maintain things like sewage, water lines and the like. Bulldoze it and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of returning the areas to "wilderness" (or whatever they called it), but you would have to plant something to keep erosion and such in check.
 
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