need some late 80s ford t case help.

[IWantATurbo]

i got a 85 ford f350 the t case went bad. i got an 89 f 350 parts truck. the tcase looks close but it is difrent. will it bolt up and work?

they look close but i know the way they change gears is a little difrent. i just need to know if it will bolt up to the tranny. there both 5 speeds.

im pretty sure the 85 has a 1356 t case.

any help?

 

[IWantATurbo]

got them both out my wife even helped!!!!!

now there a little difrent!!!!!! steel one is what came out of my truck alumanum one came out of the parts truck.

i need to know what they are so i can find the right one. is that an np205?

 

[H2SNOW]

The NP203 is identified by several features.

1. The transfer case is made up of 4 sections bolted together: a range box (used by various companies to make a 't-case doubler' set up to get even lower low-range for rock crawling), the chain case which houses the chain drive to the front driveshaft output, the differential housing, and the output housing. The front 2 sections are cast iron, the back 2 sections are typically aluminum.
2. The overall length is about 22" - 23" from the face of the case to the rear output yoke centerline.
3. The shifter is a somewhat complicated box that actuates the 2 levers on a single shaft on the side of the range box section of the 203.
4. The model tag (if it still exists) will be found on the front of the chain case above the front output shaft. It will list the model number, the manufacture date and the gear ratio.


your far left is a mated gear only NP 205 ,and Id say that other is a borg warner chain drive hydraulic pump 1346

with out an adapter and longer shaft etc etc you are gonna have a hard time glueing that together ..plus mounts and linkage to boot...

I have a brandnew rebuilt 203 in the shed ....hate to ship that anywhere yuck ...freight cots ya about the price of the T case

 

[IWantATurbo]

you think its a 203 not a 205?

now i have a problem. the 1346 would work so much better!!! i think it will bolt in. but the big thing is its longer so i would be able to hook up the front drive line. the motor is in the way with teh tcase that was in it. need 12in of lift to clear the junk in the way. will the 1346 hold up to a 300 hp cummins? i will have to shorten the rear drive line 9 in to make the 1346 work but thats not hard.

what do you think?

 

[H2SNOW]

a little 1346 is a weak pos ...I run dual 205s in my Ford with about 612 under the hood

a 205 that I have doesn't have the big mount extra meat on the bolt on side and usualy divorced

205s are gear to gear and the 203 runs a chain hence the oblong shape of the 203 in your pic ....the 203 is a very bullet proof t-case over the borg anyday of the week but is one heavy som b.
your tail shaft in your tranny may not be long enough to mate with the other T-case ..or vice versa better get the tape out ..

another thing is that she will spin in fulltime 4 wheel drive ...basicaly your hubs are the difference between locked up and 2 wheel

here is what I found

The NP205 is identified by several features:

1. The transfer case is one piece of cast iron. There is a short bearing retainer/output housing at the tail of the case, and aluminum bearing retainers/seal retainers at the front and rear outputs but the working parts are all in a single iron housing.
2. There is a small idler shaft cover on the back of the 205 with 3 small bolts holding it on. This is somewhat unique among transfer cases.
3. The overall length of the NP205 (in fixed output yoke versions) is about 12-13" from the front of the case to the center of the output yoke.
4. The shifter is a very simple lever operating a crossbar between the two shift rails that plunge in and out of the front of the case.
5. The ID tag is found above the front driveshaft output, and will list model, manufacture date and gear ratio.

 

[H2SNOW]

I updated both posts with easy points for identification

check these guys out !!

great source http://www.fordification.com/transfercase.htm

 

[IWantATurbo]

thats some good info!!!!!

i only have 2 t cases just 2 difrent pics of the 205. i really want to use the 1356 just bc i don't need 12in lift to have 4x4. it will bolt right up but have to mod the rear drive line. but i have been told by many that it is junk!!!!

guess i need to find out how much to rebuild the 205

 

[H2SNOW]

I used to rebuild them for about 250 bucks..

you might be able to clock the t-case one way to get a better angle ...just a thought

 

[IWantATurbo]

well the 1356 is in, i did not want to use it but got to looking at it and i had to try it. bolted right up. and the front drive line bolted right up!!!!!! thats a big score. with the 205 i was never going to have 4 wheel drive. had 3 drive lines left and made it work with out cuting them. should be done and out of the shop tonight

 

[H2SNOW]

atta boy !!

 

[IWantATurbo]

yea and it did not cost me a dime!!!!! other than time. well as long as the last drive line fits tonight.

 

[Gimpster]

If you grenade that transfer, I have one out of an 88 F250 460 fuelie, laying around collecting dust

----- Gimpster -----

 

[IWantATurbo]

how much shipped to casper wy? if the price is right ill try and brake it!!!! LOL

 

[Gimpster]

I have it laying around because we were throwing parts at my tow truck trying to get rid of a driveline noise. Transfer case was not the problem. I don't have a lot into the other transfer case that we installed, like $75. As far as freight, I may be closing a real estate deal over your way. Transfer case delevery would fall right into place.
edit: I'm not far from you... Bismarck, N.D.

----- Gimpster -----