MY PREDICTION FOR THE NEXT DOO MOUNTAIN CHASSIS

[mountainhorse]

With as successful of run with the XP as Ski Doo has had... I think they will NOT be "Throwing out the baby with the bathwater".

This is my SPECULATION for the new sled.

The chassis itself will remain the same... same tunnel, drive train, pyramid, a-arms/spindles... There will be some refinements...like some braces here and there, stronger drop brackets, a bit smaller coolant loop to save some weight and a bit different running board layout for better snow evacuation. I like to see some creative use of non-stick coatings so that the sled does not gain weight from ice and snow build up as much.

The Big changes will be in the bodywork, rear suspension and steering.

The AC lawsuit smells of Doo wanting to bargain for something... that something, IMO, is to ditch the ole torsion spring skid and go with a coil over or air shock rear to shed some serious pounds... and a rail redesign.

The Bodywork will be narrowed up for better sidehilling and less "panneling-out" in deep snow... especially with that narrow front end... this will take a bit of work... but will be able to be pulled off... maybe a less bulky primary clutch and a redesigned exhaust. The tank and seat will be changed to give it a "new look'

The steering, on the mountain sled will be changed to a more pivoting like design... rather that the current swing design that seems to lend itself to ISOC and trail action.... try out a new AC with the different steering options and you will see what I mean.... This new steering will produce a sled that is easier for less experienced riders to enjoy and attack more technical situations with less fatigue and less mistakes in the backcountry.

The E-Tec engine is pretty awesome... no need to change that.

The secondary, I predict, will go the way of the SkiDoo accessories floating secondary.

I think you might just see a 15" track as an early order option on the Mtn sleds as well.

Will this 2013 or 2014... that is the question...

Refine what you have Ski Doo!!... no need for HUGE investments in re-design when a body change and taking a great machine to a higher level will give the riders out there just what they are looking for!!!




PRAY FOR SNOW

 

[brycter]

Oh baby I think you are on to something there. I can picture it now. Except the turbo kits will need to be changed also. Better go fire up the welder.

 

[550iq]

And hopefully hot grips that heat up at idle. No probs with snow and cold up north. A banner year for both.

 

[Dynamo^Joe]

US Dollar index made a rounding bottom yesterday
Euro fell today
Hope of higher yen died today
Stocks were a mess thursday. Nasdaq & Nasdaq-100 rose slightly, as did the S&P500, but the Dow & other sank, evidencing great confusion & faltering confidence.

Economy's future remains burdened by massive bad debts and malinvestment from the last boom cycle -- Add to that what seems to be the Federal Reserve's resolve to keep on inflating, which is the only cure they know and the one cure that won't help.
Ben Burn-ankle announced "going to be more transparent and announce what course they expect interest rates to follow, which gives them a chance at making even more deliberate mistakes".....he's not even a 1/2-arsed good liar.

In 2008 I figured this is only the beginning, we are climbing the slide.
Now we're at the top of the slide.
I think the federal reserve by april is going to push us off the top of the slide and the money riot (inflation) is going to happen and very soon within a year the USA is going to see hyperinflation, you are going to need $100 to buy a loaf of bread.
...and us Canucks are coming right behind you.

If there is anyone with 1/2 a brain in BRP watching the financial markets trying to predict(s) "when" the dollar is going to fail, I dont think they will release a completely new sled platform yet. They are already testing 2017 model, but you have to test and be prepared eh. I bet one silver ounce that they ain't gonna come out with anything new.

Regards
D. Downer

 

[dmkhnr]

I think the 12 cat is a deliberate copy of the 13 doo, hence the lawsuit.

 

[weetee]

US Dollar index made a rounding bottom yesterday
Euro fell today
Hope of higher yen died today
Stocks were a mess thursday. Nasdaq & Nasdaq-100 rose slightly, as did the S&P500, but the Dow & other sank, evidencing great confusion & faltering confidence.

Economy's future remains burdened by massive bad debts and malinvestment from the last boom cycle -- Add to that what seems to be the Federal Reserve's resolve to keep on inflating, which is the only cure they know and the one cure that won't help.
Ben Burn-ankle announced "going to be more transparent and announce what course they expect interest rates to follow, which gives them a chance at making even more deliberate mistakes".....he's not even a 1/2-arsed good liar.

In 2008 I figured this is only the beginning, we are climbing the slide.
Now we're at the top of the slide.
I think the federal reserve by april is going to push us off the top of the slide and the money riot (inflation) is going to happen and very soon within a year the USA is going to see hyperinflation, you are going to need $100 to buy a loaf of bread.
...and us Canucks are coming right behind you.

If there is anyone with 1/2 a brain in BRP watching the financial markets trying to predict(s) "when" the dollar is going to fail, I dont think they will release a completely new sled platform yet. They are already testing 2017 model, but you have to test and be prepared eh. I bet one silver ounce that they ain't gonna come out with anything new.

Regards
D. Downer

Holy Crap! Looks like Doo should come out with a gun / 1 bullet accessory package. Or maybe a tow rope with a hangman’s noose.

 

[Dabull]

wow,tell us how youy really fee dynamol its a good thing your not running the country

 

[ALD]

if we had more people like dj running the country we would'nt be in this mess!

 

[winter brew]

The Summits sell around here... Dealers trying to get enough to satisfy demand from what i see.... Come out with a new or refined chassis and those will sell too... Some unhappy Cat guys that will be looking at other brands next year too... Good time to release a new chassis IMO.

 

[Dynamo^Joe]

heh...you aint seen nuthin yet. Im just getting started and it gets worse but don't worry.....I'll just end this on a sour note with a final say that at the end of my political diatribe; my observation is brp will release in 2013, "more of the same sled"....

wow,tell us how you really fee dynamol its a good thing your not running the country

whoa whoa whoa...this is not about how I feel, what I perceive mentally with grief woe or opinion - Dont put words in my mouth that are "off point and out of context"
I observe some things and I report on it, merely an editor putting facts together. If people can't handle that, then they are revealing their tolerance of truth and just don't want to hear bad things that are actually, factually, happening; rather can only tolerate things perceived that are pacifying and/or make one "feel good"...hide the bad, rather, flick on the TV and watch who gets voted off the island or reruns of two and a 1/2 men, because that is more.......peaceful. Fruitless reality drama and laughs are better than reality.

My statement was not a perception at all, I just told facts that are out in plain view for anyone to read in the papers or on any news media outlet - they are there right in the open, just piece them together man. Everything I put in my statement was from mainstream media, how about telling those people reporting the numbers how they feel?

A little from here, a little information from there and you can piece together a story, I did not make any of that up, im not smart enough to do that, but one thing I can do is read and piece details together.

If I was running the country I would be making plans to get gold/silver back into the banks, kill fractional reserves, make interest free loans to whoever(no usury) follow and stick to laws that won't allow people to lend/steal from their neighbors and there would be no more thing called "debt discharge" rather only "debt paid" and money of the nation would not be owned by a handful of men that you owe the amount of all the promissory notes you ever used of theirs....to - the money would be owned by the people with accountability, no bribes or taking of gifts.

you see, all this "we need something new to save us" that is spouted every week by players in the money system is in reality they are actually saying "we need new ways to steal from the people who trust us and keep the ball rolling".
No....we need to go back to something OLD...something OLD, tried and true that made USA the richest nation before the fed reserve bank was enacted, to where north america was the #1 creditor nation and not the #1 debtor nation and that was before 1913, before when we had our own paper money and gold/silver not some paper owned by some family name.

but then for trying to squash the current banks like bugs, I would be shot with a trademark signature kill "back of the head" (dont mess with us) just like Lincoln and Kennedy were.

Sorry bud, mark my words, we are breaking usury laws with paper money that costs 40 cents to print and you and me owe the value back to the printers, the value that is printed on the face....we are doomed.
Look at the debt clock and please...please, I wish anyone would tell me what the fu(k do we do to get out of this.

To get back on track with BRP releasing new sleds, s4it is going to hit the fan & BRP will be prepared to only release "more of the same sleds" to keep costs low and not release a new platform.

Regards
D. Downer

 

[9 Iron]

No....we need to go back to something OLD...something OLD, tried and true that made USA the richest nation before the fed reserve bank was enacted, to where north america was the #1 creditor nation and not the #1 debtor nation and that was before 1913, before when we had our own paper money and gold/silver not some paper owned by some family name.

Some of the higher end financial engineers/think tanks belive this is whats going to happen for 2012...

 

[snowdog484]

My money is on more of the same from Doo for '13. the new or refined chassis will be '14. Sorry for the bad news.

 

[MtnDoo]

Narrower
Fewer parts through consolidation
Sub-400 lbs
New skid
Simplified drive train
Under seat exhaust or tunnel dump
Turbo or S/C option
Bluetooth
Beavertail II
60# suitcase
Remote start
BNG

 

[Dabull]

heh...you aint seen nuthin yet. Im just getting started and it gets worse but don't worry.....I'll just end this on a sour note with a final say that at the end of my political diatribe; my observation is brp will release in 2013, "more of the same sled"....

whoa whoa whoa...this is not about how I feel, what I perceive mentally with grief woe or opinion - Dont put words in my mouth that are "off point and out of context"
I observe some things and I report on it, merely an editor putting facts together. If people can't handle that, then they are revealing their tolerance of truth and just don't want to hear bad things that are actually, factually, happening; rather can only tolerate things perceived that are pacifying and/or make one "feel good"...hide the bad, rather, flick on the TV and watch who gets voted off the island or reruns of two and a 1/2 men, because that is more.......peaceful. Fruitless reality drama and laughs are better than reality.

My statement was not a perception at all, I just told facts that are out in plain view for anyone to read in the papers or on any news media outlet - they are there right in the open, just piece them together man. Everything I put in my statement was from mainstream media, how about telling those people reporting the numbers how they feel?

A little from here, a little information from there and you can piece together a story, I did not make any of that up, im not smart enough to do that, but one thing I can do is read and piece details together.

If I was running the country I would be making plans to get gold/silver back into the banks, kill fractional reserves, make interest free loans to whoever(no usury) follow and stick to laws that won't allow people to lend/steal from their neighbors and there would be no more thing called "debt discharge" rather only "debt paid" and money of the nation would not be owned by a handful of men that you owe the amount of all the promissory notes you ever used of theirs....to - the money would be owned by the people with accountability, no bribes or taking of gifts.

you see, all this "we need something new to save us" that is spouted every week by players in the money system is in reality they are actually saying "we need new ways to steal from the people who trust us and keep the ball rolling".
No....we need to go back to something OLD...something OLD, tried and true that made USA the richest nation before the fed reserve bank was enacted, to where north america was the #1 creditor nation and not the #1 debtor nation and that was before 1913, before when we had our own paper money and gold/silver not some paper owned by some family name.

but then for trying to squash the current banks like bugs, I would be shot with a trademark signature kill "back of the head" (dont mess with us) just like Lincoln and Kennedy were.

Sorry bud, mark my words, we are breaking usury laws with paper money that costs 40 cents to print and you and me owe the value back to the printers, the value that is printed on the face....we are doomed.
Look at the debt clock and please...please, I wish anyone would tell me what the fu(k do we do to get out of this.

To get back on track with BRP releasing new sleds, s4it is going to hit the fan & BRP will be prepared to only release "more of the same sleds" to keep costs low and not release a new platform.

Regards
D. Downer

wow,sorry bro was just playing with ya,hence the winkall fun intended,sorry if i got under your skin

 

[cbc24]

yeah i can see them pulling a yamaha type maneuver, the xp chassis is pretty refined

 

[Matte Murder]

Joe if you really feel all this is coming, why are you going along business as usual? If the end is nigh aren't there more important things to be done than clutch kits? Holes to dig, ammo to be loaded, beans to be canned? I am in a business that is loaded with end of the world types. Been hearing for 25 years that "this time it's for real, it's gonna happen!" I am prepared, more than most but if the catastrophe is a big as you say anyone living near a big population center(like me) is doomed. I personally think the gold/silver thing is another huge scam to separate people from their money. When Jan 1 2013 rolls around and the sky is still up there where it always is, metals are going to plummet.

 

[MOSKIDOO]

Hmmmm

Something will happen sometime without question, our dollar will tank but my 3" camo ex will still be spinning 8100 unless it quits snowing too, like right now" Where's the SNOW!!!"

 

[T Stoke]

Holy crap! I jump on this thread to hear about speculations of the new Doo and instead get a politics/economics lecture? Am I in the right forum? I think there is a politics section you guys may prefer to spend time in?

 

[fredw]

hold the faith boys, 2013 might be a great sled year for brp

 

[Matte Murder]

2012 is a great year for BRP! I love mine!