So after 3yrs of riding I go for a spin with my sled group. I have a 15 TS lt. we head in to one of our favorite spots which includes close to 2 miles of narrow sled width zig zagging trail and it was miserable. The bike was darting tipping think I fell over at least 5 times had to white knuckle the thing the whole time and the snow was packed from sleds somewhat wet. Is there a kit that can handle this type of riding or is this just a no can do!!! ?
My first miserable day
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I find the ARO is an improvement in this type of riding. Not perfect but not white knuckle.
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My old LT Timbersled is the same, it sucks in those conditions. Basically I quit riding last year because it was so crappy in the spring. The Camso kit I'm riding this season makes riding that crap much easier. I cant comment on other kits but anything is better than the TS.
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The ARO ski is the only one that even comes close to being aggressive enough to handle the push of a long track kit.
Flat tracks are stupid at low speed, they really flop side to side and show their weakness. Curved tracks roll around a lot more and aren't so sketchy at low speed. Anything with a rounded track is going to be a big upgrade, be it just doing a track swap or going to a newer kit.
I have had way better luck with my camso in those conditions than my 15 Timbersled
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Aro track.
Or any narrower/ rounded track.
Ski pressure is critical on hardpack also.
Or any narrower/ rounded track.
Ski pressure is critical on hardpack also.
spring time
We rode about 50 miles of that the last four days of sunshine.
No problem after 6 years of tuning the twitch out of the.........TS.
new aro ski is a big help and profile he heck out of the two runner skag, we made single skags in various configs but, but keep coming back to the stock.
go all the way loooose on the compression dampening on the forks
if you ride with air forks, let the air out, go soft forks
shorten your strut..........you should have an adjustable strut, try about 3/8" shorter
stiffen your front shock spring, or better yet get a 240 lb spring with less preload
ride like you don't care, looose
go late in t he day when the snow gets softer........go late / stay late
or ride your sled and get the holy crap kicked out of you, went on a late afternoon rescue mission on my 800 last week, wow !! I'm not man enough for that sport anymore
We rode about 50 miles of that the last four days of sunshine.
No problem after 6 years of tuning the twitch out of the.........TS.
new aro ski is a big help and profile he heck out of the two runner skag, we made single skags in various configs but, but keep coming back to the stock.
go all the way loooose on the compression dampening on the forks
if you ride with air forks, let the air out, go soft forks
shorten your strut..........you should have an adjustable strut, try about 3/8" shorter
stiffen your front shock spring, or better yet get a 240 lb spring with less preload
ride like you don't care, looose
go late in t he day when the snow gets softer........go late / stay late
or ride your sled and get the holy crap kicked out of you, went on a late afternoon rescue mission on my 800 last week, wow !! I'm not man enough for that sport anymore
Changes.
Done most of the set up changes. Shortened truss rod which adds more rake. That definitely is an improvement, toyed with that quit a bit. May need less compression , forward spring could be harder but fear making it trench, have not contoured the track been dragging my feet for fear of loosing some performance However Catsledman how are you profiling your skeg Also notice that shorter trackers are doing better ,been looking at a used camso for my 2nd bike I’ve just been a long tracker for to long . Back to the drawing board. I guess the first is to contour the track.
Done most of the set up changes. Shortened truss rod which adds more rake. That definitely is an improvement, toyed with that quit a bit. May need less compression , forward spring could be harder but fear making it trench, have not contoured the track been dragging my feet for fear of loosing some performance However Catsledman how are you profiling your skeg Also notice that shorter trackers are doing better ,been looking at a used camso for my 2nd bike I’ve just been a long tracker for to long . Back to the drawing board. I guess the first is to contour the track.
No, everyone complains when the conditions are like that.
I agree with this, even snowmobiles are not exempt from the darting and being "Locked into" all the other ski/carbide tracks laid in the snow/trail.
It is the worst when all the ski/carbide tracks have frozen and the snow is still hard. Just have to Man-Up and take it.
There's been lots of times when the only thing sleds can do is drive a straight line and any attempts to carve ends badly . Flat light is also a pain for two skis , you never know when one of the two skis tries to slap the crap out of you because center of gravity has never been their strong point . If you don't need snow for cooling the one skis have the sleds beat as far as length of season that will also tell you who's got the skid that eats hyfax 
Changes
No doubt a contoured track would be better I’m also thinking an air shock on the front suspension would make for quick adjustments. Harder front shock should take pressure off the rear of the track lessening tail drag. Going to test that theory today after I clip the track
No doubt a contoured track would be better I’m also thinking an air shock on the front suspension would make for quick adjustments. Harder front shock should take pressure off the rear of the track lessening tail drag. Going to test that theory today after I clip the track
I take it that no one here ever had the "enjoyment" of the original timbersled (simmons) 6" wide ski? try one of those out on hardpack, or any snow for that matter, and you will never complain again.
Ha! I still have my original skinny ski in my shed. It only lasted a couple rides before getting a Gen2, which wasn't any better on ice. Good times.
I take it that no one here ever had the "enjoyment" of the original timbersled (simmons) 6" wide ski? try one of those out on hardpack, or any snow for that matter, and you will never complain again.
I still run the Gen II , slicker than a greased pig .
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