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My Assault Review/thoughts

milehighassassin

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This fall I made the decision to buy an Assault. My prior two sleds was a 2002 Arctic Cat Mountain Cat 800 LE 151", which I rode for two years and then I bought a 2005 Ski Doo Rev 144". The Mountain cat was basically stock (just a can) and the Rev had quite a bit of bolt on work (head, can, Holz, Boss, Fox Floats, Reeds, etc, etc). I obviously went to the Rev because of the updated chassis. The cat had good power but was heavy and was a bathtub chassis.

I had spent some decent time on both the Dragon 700 and two different Dragon 800's, as well as some time on the XP 800. I really like the chassis of the Dragon and was open to buy a D8 or an Assault. I knew if I bought the Assault it would not handle as well as the Dragon and I was willing to accept that. I figured the chassis was good enough that even with the front end being longer I would be able to get around fine. I like to jump a sled and boondock mostly, so I figured this sled was a good fit. Plus the price was right ($8600 with 155 miles on it).

Day 1 doesn't really count, for it was with very little snow and mostly a trial run to see how the sled ran. I got some turns but it was limited to lack of snow.

Day 2: This is my first real day on the snow with this sled. We made the drive to Wolf Creek this past weekend because of lack of snow in our area. The snow up there was great; many spots had 2.5' of fresh. I was able to turn with no issues. It certainly doesn't turn as easy as a D8 but it turned easier than my 2005 REV. I did have my shock turned all the way down on the front; even on their lightest setting they are stiff. I never did turn down the rear shocks; I think they are on the hardest setting as well. I struggled a bit in the trees to have the control I wanted. It was not bad but I didn't feel like I was in complete control. I had no issue getting the sled onto it's side or turning but I had a problem going back the other direction or more specifically to the "neutral" position. When I try to go to the middle I usually go to far and end up on the othe edge. I hope that makes sense; if I am on a right and turn and try to go straight I usually ended up on a left hand turn. I was able to get more time in open areas, doing turnout, donuts, etc. This was helpful to get a feel for the sled. This sled is easy to get over, hard to get back up. Throttle control goes a long ways.

I was hurt because the original owner took the bar hooks off and the sled also doesn't come with a mountain strap. I never had any idea how often I grab for the mountain bar, many times without knowing. I tried to make a makeshift one with some rope but it didn't really work to well and the rope would flex down and hit the kill switch which made for more than one stuck.

I also hate the position of the kill switch, too bad it is attached to the throttle block or I would move it. I plan using a rubber-band in the future. That and I am sure I will learn to remember where the switch is. Overall I didn't think was getting stuck because of the "track". I felt that I was stuck because of no mountain strap and unable to control the sled correctly, or my feel for the chassis and new sled was lacking (riding skill on this chassis wasn't there yet).

Day 2: Day 1, every time I got stuck I blamed the lack of mountain strap. It has kinda became a joke. Because of that I was able to buy a fabcraft mountain bar that fit the Assault handlebars perfectly. It is actually the EXACT strap that Polaris uses on the Dragon. This helped a lot. For anyone having problems moving the Assault how you would like, I HIGHLY recommend you get a mountain strap. The Fabcraft is hard enough to be firm while using it and soft enough it will not destroy you if you come in contact with it while jumping. I actually had aftermarket bar hooks to put on, but they didn't fit the handlebars. I will probably source out the OEM hooks.

Day 2 went a lot better. I got stuck way less (1 time I think). I also think having a day under my belt on the chassis helped me out. The mountain bar helped me turn the sled when on a side hill much easier, I was also about to do downhill turnouts much easier. You certainly have to learn to commit the sled when turning. If you half *** it, it is not going to happen. Seat time on the chassis will give you (learn) confidence. I still have a ways to go but day 2 was a much better day. When you are turning get your weight forward on the chassis, this helps add ski pressure to make turning easier (really the same with any sled). There were really no hills that I couldn't climb that I wanted to climb. Granted I was never a big hill climber I have always been someone that enjoys boondocking, playing and jumping more.

The track hooks up awesome; you learn to back off the throttle a little to keep the track from trenching. Learn to feather the throttle. When the sled starts to trench down, shaking the sled, working the throttle and getting your weight forward helps a lot. There were several times that while climbing I ended up going into a side hill because I wasn't going to make it and then after the side hill I would climb up further, going straight. You will work with this sled.

All in all I love the sled at this point. It does not handle like a Dragon but it is not bad. It handles better than my REV and I think handles better than an XP. I love how the track hooks up. I can honestly say that I was never stuck because the track was too hard or too short. I was stuck because of my skill or because I hit the kill switch.

I just thought I would share my initial impressions of this sled. Right now it is basically 100% stock. I do have better boards on it and am planning on an SLP can along with some various vents.

For people with this sled I would go for a Mountain strap first thing. Spend some time on it getting used to the chassis and the tipsiness of it and what it takes to get it back up.
 
You could always make a mountain bar out of twine! Did the Dragon intimidate you at all?

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You could always make a mountain bar out of twine! Did the Dragon intimidate you at all?

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I mentioned making the mountain bar and it not working, I guess you didn't read the book above huh? LOL

I almost ran right over the top of that Dragon because of the camo and I didn't see it. I'm sure the track would have dug in good!
 
Last year I rode a 600 RMK with a 155 track. It was a great sled but I rolled it a couple of times... found it a little tippy (Graham likes the responsive handling, it wasn't working for me). This year I was able to ride a 2010 Assault (T Dragon let me give it try.) It was awesome. I didn't miss the extra track at all. It handled really well, had lots of power and I didn't roll it once. Loved it. Mrs. T Dragon. :)
 
I hear ya about the mountain strap!!!... When i first bought my sled without the extra handle... I actually took the "taper" foamy off the the cross member betweent the handle bars and used that for the time being!! :D The mountain bar is a must!!!:cool:
 
I used last years Ski Doo Summit Flexible Mountain Strap on both the wives and my Assault. It is collapsible but always at hand. We used the heck out of them last year, while feeling the sled out.

I rarely find my self using it at all now, or her either. We set both our handle bar angles a little forward, and can carve and climb well enough without it. The hooks seemed to be a nuisance at first, and I wanted to remove mine, but they help when I'm hanging it out there now.

But, it still is nice to have one when you need it, and this one collapses easy, when you chest up to the handle bars.
 
If you are still running the stock skis, I would try Powder Pros or Simmons Gen 2's. For me, the Simmons Gen 2's turned the Assault into a new sled. Kind of hard getting over the snow board look but they work!
 
I wouldn't spend the money on skis, the grippers work great. I might cut the outside edge of mine (ala Carl's Skis) to improve the kickback of the ski when carving.
 
I think the Gripper is a better ski than the Powder Pro. I had Powder Pro's on my last sled. I also know that Xtreme Performance used to put the Gripper on all of their mod sleds.
 
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What do you think cutting a gen2 would do to the ski? Interesting concept of the Carl's ski, but I like the float the Simmons has.
 
Doing what Carl's is doing to Powder Pro's but to a Simmons GenII ski instead. The GenII is wider and has a different keel than the Powder Pro or the gripper. IMO the gripper will not float the Assault as well as SOME aftermarket skis. Maybe a D8 but not an Assault set up correctly.
 
There is little difference in a D8 and an Assault. A bit more travel up front and stiffer shocks/springs. Geometry is slightly different. The Assault is wider obviously but that should actually help with actual floatation since the weight is spread out more than a D8/RMK.
 
I put another ride on the sled yesterday. Deaper snow and I had to work more. There were certainly some hills/spots that I had trouble with, but I still enjoyed the day and the riding.

I need to lighten up the the rear springs and shock. We'll see how much that helps out.

I might eventually look at getting a 5.1 155 for the dry snow, real winter and keep the 146 for the spring and early season.
 
Be careful of SLP Pipe

I also ride an assault, with SLP pipe/can/intake, and now polaris is grumbling that the SLP pipe maybe causing some of the issues they are having. Although I believe this to be a total copout.

Anyway, there is even some talk of polaris not warrantying sleds with the slp pipe, so be careful and do your research before adding the pipe for only 4-5 more hp.

With the mods I have and all the money I've dumped into mine, it still runs like chit in the midrange rpms, so if yours is running strong I might leave it alone. Good riding.
 
I put another ride on the sled yesterday. Deaper snow and I had to work more. There were certainly some hills/spots that I had trouble with, but I still enjoyed the day and the riding.

I need to lighten up the the rear springs and shock. We'll see how much that helps out.

I might eventually look at getting a 5.1 155 for the dry snow, real winter and keep the 146 for the spring and early season.

mile..rather then do the 5.1..do the extreme 2.5 or the PC..way better all around tracks and I think the 146 extreme will out perform the 155 5.1 in deep snow.........you can even get the extreme as a drop in with no changes..although I would do the drop and roll...also...good clutching makes a world of difference on the 800 cfi...and as far as the slp single..been running one since I got my sled new in dec. 07..it leans the top enough to clear up most of the stock maps richness...and on every map update has run better then the stock pipe(09 1st,map, 09 second map, and the 10 map)thorough out the rpm range......(but it cant be on there when the sled goes to the dealer)
 
mile..rather then do the 5.1..do the extreme 2.5 or the PC..way better all around tracks and I think the 146 extreme will out perform the 155 5.1 in deep snow.........you can even get the extreme as a drop in with no changes..although I would do the drop and roll...also...good clutching makes a world of difference on the 800 cfi...and as far as the slp single..been running one since I got my sled new in dec. 07..it leans the top enough to clear up most of the stock maps richness...and on every map update has run better then the stock pipe(09 1st,map, 09 second map, and the 10 map)thorough out the rpm range......(but it cant be on there when the sled goes to the dealer)

I agree with your idea of the camo extreme, but I don't think the 146 camo will do better than the 5.1 in deep snow. The 5.1 is a terrible track for anything but the light fluffy stuff. I have the camo extreme on my D8 (155") and it is a world of difference. The 5.1 probably does a tad better in the light sugar snow, but the camo is still overall better. You have to learn to "feather" the throttle with the camo.

I think if I had an Assault (there is one in my garage!), that I'd get a 151" camo extreme and long track the Assault with extensions. That would be easy enough to take off for spring hard pack.
 
Give the 146" 2.5" camo extreme a try.I have one on my 2010 assualt,and it seems to be a good match against a 155" 5.1 rmk in fluff,and better on set up snow.Also have a SLP pipe on mine,seems to run strong on top,but having the lean midrange problems as everyone else.Always has happend on the trail with a steady throttle about 6000 RPM
 
I also ride an assault, with SLP pipe/can/intake, and now polaris is grumbling that the SLP pipe maybe causing some of the issues they are having. Although I believe this to be a total copout.

Anyway, there is even some talk of polaris not warrantying sleds with the slp pipe, so be careful and do your research before adding the pipe for only 4-5 more hp.

With the mods I have and all the money I've dumped into mine, it still runs like chit in the midrange rpms, so if yours is running strong I might leave it alone. Good riding.

I have no intention of putting a pipe on my sled, the gains are not worth the money and the risk. I am planning on putting an SLP can on just for weight reduction and some mild sound, SLP is the only can right now that meets the Colorado 2011 noise requirements for the D8.

I am going to try and loosen up the rear suspension, currently it is cranked all the way up. I am also going to tighten up my limiter strap and see what that does for me.
 
I am probubly going ot be a new assault ownder very soon. From what i can gather, polaris was WAY off in the socks. If it were me i would take those walkers in and get them revalved.

I will be puting fox EVOL X shocks on my sled so i don't realy care how stiff the shocks are.

Have you thought about puting an aftermarket control box on it to help with the mid range and lean out the top end? Ohh and you could get a sled with a SLP pipe from the factory so....i don't buy the "pull your pipe off everytime your deeler sees your sled idea"
 
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