Just a pic of us hiking back down to our sleds from the Crater at Mt.Baker at 10,000 feet!
Mt.BAKER
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Can't you just ride them all the way to the crater?
I've always been tol you cannot legally ride all the way to the crater. We are able to ride on Baker in the NRA (Nat'l Recreation Area?). The northern boundary of which ends in a point on Sherman Peak. See map linked below for boundaries. Never been there myself but I guess it depends on where you ride to. But if you are headed to an overlook into the crater you probably need to park your sled and hike up/over to it.
Here's a great map you can zoom in and move around that shows the boundaries
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?q=http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/kml_demo/Howson_Creek_trail.kml&ll=48.74804,-121.820354&t=t2&z=13
So the watch tower is on the wilderness boundary....and it looks like as you leave the tower if you drop down off the ridge (opposite horse corral side...so to the South)) you are in Wilderness?? There are always sleds there. Or am I looking at the map wrong?
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shmuckaluck
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i'llDooit
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i dont think many people are educated on the boundries. they just ride where there is untouched pow
Ya gotta be careful up there now some of the snivelers have been taking pics. and posting them where ever they can to draw attention to the out of bounds riding they say has been taking place ..
Best bet would be to put the USFS feet to the fire and MAKE THEM show where the boundries are.. They claim it is up to the riders that just takes them out of the equation for liability that's all.
The topo maps they hand out are vague at best because the lines keep moving. I saw one post by a sniveler showing a group riding down the face away from the vent and this cat went on and on about how this group was out of bounds,, yet they were coming down the mountain in an area where,, if it were crossing the boundary it would only leave one way up to the crater to the east. so WATCH OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best bet would be to put the USFS feet to the fire and MAKE THEM show where the boundries are.. They claim it is up to the riders that just takes them out of the equation for liability that's all.
The topo maps they hand out are vague at best because the lines keep moving. I saw one post by a sniveler showing a group riding down the face away from the vent and this cat went on and on about how this group was out of bounds,, yet they were coming down the mountain in an area where,, if it were crossing the boundary it would only leave one way up to the crater to the east. so WATCH OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mtn mike on boost
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I am guessing they are walking down to their sleds because of ice.
Last time i went to the crater, we all went to turn out and stop at
the top and slid 100 yards down. Its a hike at that elevation
Last time i went to the crater, we all went to turn out and stop at
the top and slid 100 yards down. Its a hike at that elevation
The look out tower is on the boarder of the wilderness... I guess keep to the east of the look out tower.
yep. People need to be mindful up at the top where the boundaries are... The boundaries don't follow what you think the boundary should be based on land contours and what not.
are you saying they need to take you up there and point it out to you? IMO, I don't think it is the gov'ts job to make sure you follow the rules...
no, I think getting to the crater gets you in the wilderness... You have to stop short of it and hike the rest of the way.
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I think, that because of the gray area of where the lines are that something should be established,, tall markers or gps and compas coordinates to use when a rider thinks he or she is close to a boundary. That would involve the USFS, if they are the agency responsible for enforcing said boundries...
That's all....
I think, that because of the gray area of where the lines are that something should be established,, tall markers or gps and compas coordinates to use when a rider thinks he or she is close to a boundary. That would involve the USFS, if they are the agency responsible for enforcing said boundries...
That's all....
Don't you view the crater by going to the west of Sherman peak?
Doesn't make any sense a fire lookout building is INSIDE a Wilderness boundary.
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Wasn't the lookout before the area was deemed wilderness?
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CoyoteGirl
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Awesome picture!!
South of the lookout is ok, East over the ridge is not...
You mean "west over the ridge", right?
East brings you back the way you came and over toward the plateau and top of hill into Pocket lake.
Thanks for the kind words about Gmap4 which produced the above map. I developed that software. Since Gmap4 runs online there is nothing to download, nothing to install.
Here is a link that will start Gmap4 and display a KMZ file which paints a green line along all of the wilderness boundaries of the Baker-Snoqualmie NF thus making it easier to see. This map is zoomed in on Mt Baker, but if you zoom out then you will see that all wilderness boundaries in the entire national forest are marked in green. If you switch to the aerial view, you will still see the green boundary lines:
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gma...nesses.kmz&ll=48.753699,-121.813913&t=t2&z=14
Here is the site hosting the KMZ file. They have similar KMZ files for all states.
http://www.wilderness.net/index.cfm?fuse=NWPS&sec=geography#tabs-3
The server at this site is slow and Google will 'time out' after 4 seconds. If the map does not load, just try again and give it a few seconds.
And here is a map showing the wilderness and national park boundaries on the Peninsula. I think this KMZ file is near the 3MB limit imposed by google. I had to try several times before this map appeared on my screen.
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gma...s.net/GIS/Western_Washington_Wildernesses.kmz
Gmap4 can also display your GPS tracks.
For more info, please see the Gmap4 homepage:
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.html
Enjoy
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