more m-10 transfer

[yammi4ever]

I am trying to dial in my m10, and was dissapointed with my deep snow performance out west a couple weeks ago. I have too much ski pressure, and feel I am pushing the front end through everything. I have adjusted the limiter to the longest setting, have put 50# in the front assault air shock. Still feel I need more transfer. Fast says to cut the coupler blocks, has anyone tried this?

I know the turbos have a pile of power, but seems they pull the fronts up pretty easy and it seems I should be able to do better.

Any other deep snow tips wold be appreciated. This is on a 151 X 2" apex conversion, and it is a notched track for the tunnel protectors.

Thanks,

Kirk

 

[BigFish BC]

darko is the man to talk to about the m-10 or cr racing they seem to have the set up down pat now.

 

[DARKO]

99.9% of the M-10's performance is in the geometry of which it was installed. 1/4" in a M-10 is a night and day difference. Do you have your exact measurements how it was installed ? (ie: center of drive axle to FTA, RTA. Height from the tunnel to the top of the FTA and RTA ?) If so, post them up and i'll calculate it.

Without knowing the above, im guessing it was the way it was put it, not to say you or whomever installed it wrong, but like i mentioned almost every time someone is unhappy with there m10 it was geometry related.

Yes, you can cut the coupler/transfer blocks, and it will make a difference to a certain extent.

 

[BigFish BC]

see i told you so& to think i have been told i dont know what iam talking about

 

[yam_apex91469]

99.9% of the M-10's performance is in the geometry of which it was installed. 1/4" in a M-10 is a night and day difference. Do you have your exact measurements how it was installed ? (ie: center of drive axle to FTA, RTA. Height from the tunnel to the top of the FTA and RTA ?) If so, post them up and i'll calculate it.

Without knowing the above, im guessing it was the way it was put it, not to say you or whomever installed it wrong, but like i mentioned almost every time someone is unhappy with there m10 it was geometry related.

Yes, you can cut the coupler/transfer blocks, and it will make a difference to a certain extent.

I agree - M10 in my 151 SRX has great transfer. Last year the front mount bolts came loose enough to let the front of the suspension rise into the tunnel about 1/4 to 1/2 inch and I lost all weight transfer. I couldn't believe it made that much difference. I could hardly move the sled on the wood deck of my trailer without spinning the track - rewelded the brackets and new bolts - good as new

 

[yammi4ever]

Here you go Darko

Ok this front measurement is from the flat of the driveshaft, and it is around 6" (150 mm)from the flat give or take a millimeter or 2 and it is 6.1 (155 mm) down from the top of the tunnel. Then the center to center of the mounting points is 25.555 inches (638 mm). the rear mount point is around 7" (179 mm) from the top of the tunnel.

I have 8 tooth 2.52 extros in this sled and like I said it is a 151 w2 m-10. they wanted me to originally be at 5.o59 inches from the flat of the driveshaft (and I drilled the fugging hole, but then could not get the track tight with the 8 tooth extros, they should have something in their directions about this, but that is another bitc h for another day. After several discussions they had me go in the points I have described above.

If you want to give me your mount points for your nitro that would be great, as that may be what this suspension goes in next year anyway.

thanks,

Kirk


also, as long as you are responding let me know if you still have that jack and your best price lowly US dollar.

 

[yammi4ever]

ttt

 

[DARKO]

Those seem close enough, in relation to drive axle height, how much higher is the FTA mounted ?

25.5" center to center IMO is a little off, we've found it best to be within 1/4" max on the true center to center of the skid. (IE: Fast's C to C on the skid is 26", so max you want to be is 25.75") Anything more and the skid starts riding softer IMO.

It's such a fine line on using M-10's, no matter how its mounted the skids designed not to have alot of transfer, which also enhances ski pressure. Anywho, when i get back to town i'll PM you the mounting measurements we've been using on the Apex so you can compare.