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M8 HP rating

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dragon12

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So I was looking over the Certificate of Origin for my 2010 M8 and noticed a category titled H.P. (S.A.E) - 138.00. What exactly does this mean?
 
I don't know? The quote I got today seemed high. Will be shopping around tomorrow. I am not sure what the HP rating means as they were being touted as having 160 hp. I know that is mostly wishful thinking, but 138 hp???
 
I am not sure on this but S.A.E. is the society of automotive engineers i am gonna take a stab at this but they may have rated the hp numbers lower for whatever reason they may have, like i say i am guessing but i wouldn't worry about it its a pretty common practice around there. I just looked it up its for emissions reasons and designing to conform to standards, hope that helps.
 
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Probably more than you want to know but here it is. SAE is a standard way of measuring HP and isn't always what a dyno at a shop will tell you.


3. 5. SAE horsepower


3. 5. 1. SAE gross horsepower

Prior to the 1972 model year, American automakers rated and advertised their engines in brake horsepower (bhp), frequently referred to as SAE gross horsepower, because it was measured in accord with the protocols defined in SAE standards J245 and J1995. As with other brake horsepower test protocols, SAE gross hp was measured using a stock test engine, generally running with few belt-driven accessories and sometimes fitted with long tube (test headers) in lieu of the OEM exhaust manifolds. The atmospheric correction standards for barometric pressure, humidity and temperature for testing were relatively idealistic.

3. 5. 2. SAE net horsepower


In the United States, the term bhp fell into disuse in 1971-72, as automakers began to quote power in terms of SAE net horsepower in accord with SAE standard J1349. Like SAE gross and other brake horsepower protocols, SAE Net hp is measured at the engine's crankshaft, and so does not account for transmission losses. However, the SAE net hp testing protocol calls for standard production-type belt-driven accessories, air cleaner, emission controls, exhaust system, and other power-consuming accessories. This produces ratings in closer alignment with the power produced by the engine as it is actually configured and sold. The change to net hp effectively deflated power ratings to assuage the auto insurance industry and environmental and safety lobbies.

3. 5. 3. SAE certified horsepower

In 2005, the SAE introduced a new test protocol for engine horsepower and torque. [12] The new protocol eliminates some of the flexibility in power measurement, and requires an independent observer present when engines are measured. The test is voluntary, but engines completing it can be advertised as SAE-certified.

A few manufacturers such as Honda and Toyota switched to the new ratings immediately, with multi-directional results; the rated output of Cadillac's supercharged Northstar V8 jumped from 440 hp (330 kW) to 469 hp (350 kW) under the new tests, while the rating for Toyota's Camry 3.0 L 1MZ-FE V6 fell from 210 hp (160 kW) to 190 horsepower (140 kW). Much of the drop can be attributed to Toyota now rating engines on 87 octane, compared to Lexus which uses 91 octane. This is why the same 3.3 L 3MZ-FE V6 engine in the Lexus ES330 and Camry SE V6 did not show equal declines. The ES330 and Camry SE V6 were previously rated at 225 hp but the ES330 dropped to 218 hp while the Camry declined to 210 hp. The first engine certified under the new program was the 7.0 L LS7 used in the 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Certified power rose slightly from 500 hp (370 kW) to 505 hp (377 kW).
 
I googled SAE and got this from Wikipedia:

"measuring automobile power in units of horsepower (SAE Net Horsepower), which has been generally followed in the USA since the early 1970s"


Maybe they are measuring hp with a track dyno, as in net hp to the ground.
 
Here's a bit more info

Restrictions on noise and gaseous emissions of snowmobiles have been a topic of much attention for the past decade. Concerns with snowmobiles in our national parks and with private land owners have resulted in new park legislations as well as legal disputes regarding recreational vehicle rights-of-way. The most widely used standard for snowmobile testing is SAE J192 Exterior Sound Level for Snowmobiles, SAE Recommended Practice. This is a wide-open throttle test with sound level meters 50 feet on either side of the snowmobile. The sound pressure cannot exceed a certain level for the snowmobile to pass. Perceived noise also plays an important role in the objections to snowmobiles. This paper considers the role of Sound Quality methods, specifically Jury Analysis, in understanding the difference between objective noise analysis and subjective noise preferences; also considering the underlying snowmobile attributes that control snowmobile noise. Both objective and subjective data taken at the SAE Clean Snowmobile Challenges will be used as the basis of the analysis. Conclusions show that there are measurable quantities related to annoyance that correlate with subjective noise preference. This explains the giant can on the new m8 lol, but in order to get S.A.E. certified snowmobiles must pass standards act which includes emissions testing.
 
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my 08 m8 also showed 138 hp on the certificate.

on the old man's '07 m8 it shows 142 hp on the certificate. so who knows. i guess ihave a gutless one.
 
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