M1000 Problems

[torqmonster]

My 07 M1000 has been running like crap for the last month. It starts and idles fine, but thats about it. Can't seem to figure out what the problem is. First, I thought it was the clutch, then the power valves, I switched ecu's, plugs, still would bog real bad and only rev to about 6500 - 6700. Then I brought it in to the dealer and they checked the fuel pressure, all was good. They checked the coils and said all failed the test, so they replaced all four coils and it still runs like crap with a $1600.00 repair bill to boot. I'm starting to lose my patience with the sled. The motor is brand new from the factory, only has a couple hundred miles on it. It has a lazy throttle response to about 6700 rpm. It seems like the motor is surging also? So what is left? stator, various efi sensors, tps, ?? help, I'm running out of money!

 

[bart0678]

i just had a stator crap out in my 08 1000. if your coils failed the "test" and it still runs like crap after replacing them i would point at the stator. pull it and send it to stator corp in MA. he tests them for free and will redo one for around 2 bills.
adam

 

[torqmonster]

how did your sled run with the crappy stator?

 

[JHG]

how did your sled run with the crappy stator?

I the beginning his sled would run fine and at the end of the day start to bog and a be impossible to restart when it was warm. If you could get it running as soon as you gave it gas it would bog and never gain enough RPM's to engage the clutch. It would usually start and run fine when it was cold. Toward the end it would run fine from the trailer then bog while riding and die. The final day it restarted once after it died ran strong about 100 yards then died, never to be restarted again. After it finally died for good there was ZERO spark but the lights would still power up when you pulled the cord. Depending on which coil on the stator you lost you may or may not have dash lights when you pull the cord.

 

[907M7]

cables

Check your exaughst valve cables. they could be frayed inside the covers. If not check your primary clutch: roller etc. Mabey clean the power valves.

 

[JHG]

Check your exaughst valve cables. they could be frayed inside the covers. If not check your primary clutch: roller etc. Mabey clean the power valves.

If the sled is only getting to 6500 RPM or so I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the exhaust valves. The fact that the coils failed the "test" and after replacing them it still isn't running would point to an electrical problem. I'm guessing the coils are not getting power, not getting enough power, or getting intermittent power from the stator. If it is the stator, you are on borrowed time...it will leave you in the woods.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

First you might want to go get your old coils you paid for. I've heard of being able to test the stator in the sled but not sure how. My Servo motor started going out on my 07 and sometimes it acted like it was running way to fat and only hit 6,900 rpm( i was running a slp pipe though). Also had rpm issues with the 4 post clutch, my rpms were all over the place until it finally broke the spider enough to lock it up. The pvalves would be worth looking at just because its rather easy, although it doesn't sound like thats your problem and you prob already did, also go through all the wiring connections incase there is just a bad ground or loose wire. Just for the heck of it unplug all the wires going to the handle bars and key switch, But if the dealer was accurate on checking the coils its prob your stator. I'm suprized your dealer replaced the coils without checking the stator, its more common for a stator to go out then all 4 coils.

 

[JHG]

I'm suprized your dealer replaced the coils without checking the stator, its more common for a stator to go out then all 4 coils.

This is what has me confused as well, I don't know how anyone would come to the conclusion that all 4 coils s*** the bed at one time, although if his dealer is like ours, they may not know where the stator is.

 

[torqmonster]

So I guess the stator would be a good place to start. I will get it tested and go from there. I better get my old coils back also. Are the coils still good even if they failed the "test"?

 

[bart0678]

it depends what this test is. i have never seen 4 coils go out at one time. im guess they said they were not making enough spark but that was probably because they were not receiving enough power, not that they are all bad. get them back and if you don't want them ill pay shipping for them... seriously though they ripped you off. hard to find a good stealership these days
adam

 

[sledpiggy]

Check your ground wire, hidden on the right side, inside the steering loop, down low...kinda hard to get too. Mine was loose and after it was fixed, ran great!

 

[BCP]

Exhaust sensor

When your exhaust sensor goes bad (includudng other sensors and issues) it will set the sled into "limp home mode"! Sled will start rough, idle well especially when cold and then start to run erratic, including 65-7000 stall like feelings, sluggish and hesitant (if you stabe it, sometimes it will pull through, but if you creep through the throttle, you cant get WOT). The sensor needs to read 200-600 ohms when off of the sled, if it is more or less than that the sensor is bad. Surprising what a small part can do to your entire ride. $109 start rather than 16. It should throw a code on your dash but sumtimes it doesnt! My.02 Good Luck

 

[WyoBoy1000]

The coils are most likely good but once you figure out your problem you can retest them. My dealers would have pluged them into a new sled and checked them just to make sure, You need a new dealer and a refund for ripping you off. If nothing else a refund in labor and mark up on parts.

 

[1100Cat]

Like all the others said never heard of or seen all 4 coils bad at one time. You probably do not want to hear this again but that dealer screwed you. The problem sounds like a stator and yes they can be tested on the sled with an ohm meter. Get the readings from a good cat dealer plug ohm meter in and read readings,if they are not in spec then its done. There is no ands if or buts on a stator as it has to be within the range or it will not function properly and run the sled properly if it does.

Let us know how it turns out in the end.

 

[smokin800]

Tourqmonster, My buddy had the same problem about 2 months ago and it took us forever to find the problem. It was the fuse next to the ecu box. I hope it works for you.

 

[Caveman]

mine was a bare wire behined the tin shield on the steering post.

 

[Kiera1]

have the spark plug caps been replaced ?sounds like its the only thing left to try..

 

[torqmonster]

Update

I talked to the delearship and they checked the old coils again with the same results. The coils are reading 2.0 and below. They should read a min. of 2.8. They are going to check the stator and and check the wiring.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

If I was the dealer I'd tell you the same thing