losing weight on the 2013

[Clarke673]

Where do you guy's think there is weight to be lost on the new sled?

The only possible way's i can see would be headlight delete, exhaust, can, and suspension. After looking at my 11, there really isn't much to do that wouldn't cost $1000s. The track could loose a few pounds but there is nothing other than suspension that could be a reasonable amount of weight. What do you guy's think? Is it light enough as is? Do you see skidoo or articat building something lighter?

 

[tube]

-c3 carbon fiber tank 10lbs
-ti a arms 6lbs
-ti skid components 8lbs
-can and pipe 7lbs
-floats all around 4lbs
-carbon fiber hood and panels 10lbs
-carbon fiber brake rotor 3lbs

I like the headlight so I will keep it. Nighttime happens often.

Well see how it goes. If its under 400lbs its an amazing feat for a 163.

 

[cokecrazed007]

I've always wondered why they put such a big oil tank on. Does any one know if there is a smaller aftermarket one out there? My thinking is make the tank 2 liters and that would enough for 2 tanks of fuel.

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[Clarke673]

how much $$$ though? at that point you might as well run a smaller fuel tank, build more efficient coolers to run less coolant, ditch the coolant bottle, mix oil+gas, drill holes in the track ETC. IMO, ditching the rear skid would be the most efficient way to loose weight. Are you actually doing this?

 

[tube]

I like 10 gallons, less coolant, don't think there are any good options that Would loose the weight and still cool, can't pre-mix with the pro, and holes in the track don't float that well.

Yes I am doing it. And compared to full carbon fiber chassis that i
have built in the past this build is going to be most cost effective build ever. In fact it's the only reason I switched to Polaris, and good on them. I am not brand loyal and they win. Hands down.

Full carbon fiber xp could not break the 400lbs mark.

 

[LoudHandle]

The factory has already built a 340# dry one. For what ultimate reason remains to be seen. Will it make production in 2014 maybe 2015 never? Time will tell. If you mould all aluminum parts in CF 350# dry is easy and likely $20-25K, that gets you below the dryweight now wet! If they won't do it next year I'm likely doing a one of for myself.

 

[Clarke673]

The factory has already built a 340# dry one. For what ultimate reason remains to be seen. Will it make production in 2014 maybe 2015 never? Time will tell. If you mould all aluminum parts in CF 350# dry is easy and likely $20-25K, that gets you below the dryweight now wet! If they won't do it next year I'm likely doing a one of for myself.

i call bs. back it up.

 

[tube]

I'm not sure how it could be that light, maybe not a 163? IIRC the difference in the xp from stock to full carbon fiber was 15lbs. I bet the entire pro tunnel/bulkhead assembely in stock form would be only 30-35lbs, in carbon would maybe save 10lbs. But if you start dropping coolers and oil infection who knows. I know one thing for sure, weight is lot harder to drop then it seems...

 

[LoudHandle]

i call bs. back it up.

No proof just word of mouth from trusted sources with extreamly close ties to the factory. Numbers wise very doable with CF chassis and most components.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

The cooler is already to small IMO, so I wouldn't do that. you can loose a few with a can and that will be one of the cheaper mods other than going on a diet.

ditch snow flap and stupid things they put on all of them. Its going to coast to drop weight, but just look at what it would cost to drop the xp or PC to that weight.

 

[Clarke673]

cmx sleds are at 400 pounds dry WITH a turbo. Their plastics drop like 8 or 10 pounds as well. idk just food for thought.

 

[wellfed777]

hey tube
you better start a thread on that build ! (please)

 

[Jonce]

A lot of options out there but like others said, at what cost $$$? Does anyone notice a big weight difference between a full tank of gas and a 3/4 tank of gas when riding?

In general, the best bang for the buck is a $30 gym monthly membership. For example, I dropped 40 lbs since Jan 1st and it only cost $240....wait, insurance pays $20 per month for frequent visits (12 times minimum per month)....so it only cost me $80 for 40lbs weight loss.

As cool as it would be to have a full carbon chassis or all titanium hardware, I think it would benefit more people if they were in shape and not so fluffy in the midsection. I'm all for a custom sled and lightweight parts but if you are looking for the biggest impact, this would be the way to go in my opinion.

 

[LoudHandle]

PCC has released all PRO plastics in CF

I noticed late last night that Patrick Custom Carbon has released there PRO plastics in full CF. Not just the hood and side panels but the fenders and nose pan also. Just says call for price and availability now but we will know the cost soon enough.

 

[Nytroty]

I like 10 gallons, less coolant, don't think there are any good options that Would loose the weight and still cool, can't pre-mix with the pro, and holes in the track don't float that well.

Yes I am doing it. And compared to full carbon fiber chassis that i
have built in the past this build is going to be most cost effective build ever. In fact it's the only reason I switched to Polaris, and good on them. I am not brand loyal and they win. Hands down.

Full carbon fiber xp could not break the 400lbs mark.

Pretty sure C3 doesn't even have to try to get a full carbon xp under 400. They have had full builds donw in the 350-360 range...

 

[Scott]

-c3 carbon fiber tank 10lbs
-ti a arms 6lbs
-ti skid components 8lbs
-can and pipe 7lbs
-floats all around 4lbs
-carbon fiber hood and panels 10lbs
-carbon fiber brake rotor 3lbs

I like the headlight so I will keep it. Nighttime happens often.

Well see how it goes. If its under 400lbs its an amazing feat for a 163.

According to my arithmaticamatics, that puts the 417lb Pro at 369lbs.

Gotta see that.

And for what it's worth, with the carbon they put on the 2013, I suspect Polaris will put more carbon fiber in subsequent chassis for '14 or '15.

 

[tube]

Pretty sure C3 doesn't even have to try to get a full carbon xp under 400. They have had full builds donw in the 350-360 range...

Here my last CF chasiss. Nextech skid, interegrated CF fuel tank. 100% TI bolts, (even the reed cage bolts). It was 400lbs. It also had a 15 wide CE. I have never seen sub 400, I alway run a headlight so If you delete that you could see just under 400. 350? never. Where would you loose the weight? IMHO not possible with a 163, liquid cooled 800.

I am 165lbs so I can't go much more there..

Is the weight worth it?? Absolutley. No question. Do I notice 1/4 tank of fuel? So much so we are considering building 6 gallon tanks with quick couplers so we can quickly ditch the weight. Next time you are at nice open face do a pull, then take of your backpack and do it again in a fresh line.

Weight is like HP, as far as misconceptions, they dont get that light and they dont make 160HP either. (unless its an 860).

FWIW.

 

[WyoBoy1000]

Here my last CF chasiss. Nextech skid, interegrated CF fuel tank. 100% TI bolts, (even the reed cage bolts). It was 400lbs. It also had a 15 wide CE. I have never seen sub 400, I alway run a headlight so If you delete that you could see just under 400. 350? never. Where you loose the weight?

I am 165lbs so I can't go much more there..

Is the weight worth it?? Absolutley. No question.

Weight is like HP, as far as misconceptions, they dont get that light and they dont make 160HP either. (unless its an 860).

FWIW.

I'm screwed, anything under 195lbs and Its not healthy, you little guys have it easy. lol

WRK, said they new of a really light chassis coming out but never said what or when. Need to pry a little more but it was something like a 100lbs lighter than before. ????

But, like said, at what cost. I think for cheap as much as you could loose I would add in other places. After that its about the $$$$

 

[tube]

no question I agree 100%. That is why IMO polaris is way ahead of the game. So much so I dont think many realizse. IE if one bought a new XM you would need to spent what? 6k? 10k? to loose the 48lbs difference just to come in at stock pro weight. I would think you would need to CF an XM to get it there. big $$. But yet the brand loyal doo guys seem to thinks this is all ok....and round and round it go... thats why this is so much fun.

 

[pura vida]

No proof just word of mouth from trusted sources with extreamly close ties to the factory. Numbers wise very doable with CF chassis and most components.

yup, same here. no actual proof but exactly what i've heard from people i consider very reliable. full CF chassis with EVERY bolt on the sled ti and i'm sure lots of other stuff. skid is a full 10 lbs light than what is currently in the sled. take it for what it is.

pv