Lifting the Pro

[Danny Dangles]

Im pretty interested in the increased height of the new Axys. Longer spindles, a lowered rear skid mount bracket, drop and rolled as well?

I know we do not have any specific measurements of the Axys RMK at the moment, but has anyone experimented with a setup like this on a Pro? I see Van Amburg has drop brackets, are there taller spindle setups? Is a drop and roll required or could just the front skid bolt be lowered to match? I like the idea of a higher COG and the sled sitting higher above the snow.

Or are the skinz adjustable running boards the way to go?

 

[NapaMatt]

For the money involved...

Just snow check a new Axis....

The high lift boards alone.. are 1800!!!$$$

Really don't need them.. less u have a trenching turbo...

If you want to feel what a lifted sled rides like... ride a newer cat m8000 2014..

If not then.. just be happy your not riding and the cat that is trenches out..

Pro.'s. really don't need the lift.. Keep ur track speed up..

my .02

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

My brothers sled has been lifted since 2011.
Avid drop and roll with suspension moved down and back 1"
Assault shocks shortened a half inch in front with zbroz 39".
(1.5" taller than stock)
No sway bar.

Handles great, gets on the snow great

It wasnt cool before yesterday but it still worked.

 

[geo]

There's advantages and disadvantages with higher CofG. Bin dere dun dat like above.

Really depends on the depth of snow.

 

[Spaarky]

For the money involved...

Just snow check a new Axis....

The high lift boards alone.. are 1800!!!$$$

Really don't need them.. less u have a trenching turbo...

If you want to feel what a lifted sled rides like... ride a newer cat m8000 2014..

If not then.. just be happy your not riding and the cat that is trenches out..

Pro.'s. really don't need the lift.. Keep ur track speed up..

my .02

Have you rode a sled with the Airlock boards??? turbo or no turbo, its a game changer.

I was a bit disappointed yesterday. After really looking at the changes of this sled, I am ready to drink the koolaid. I think you will be very surprised how the ride height helps.

 

[Danny Dangles]

Have you rode a sled with the Airlock boards??? turbo or no turbo, its a game changer.

I was a bit disappointed yesterday. After really looking at the changes of this sled, I am ready to drink the koolaid. I think you will be very surprised how the ride height helps.

Well the game plan is to install this on my trenching (currently written off) 12' pro turbo. I was going to make my own version, so no $1500 spent, free in fact well minus a days labor.

 

[hankohlson]

My thoughts were to do this. Zbros sells a shock extension for the stock Walker shocks 1/2 inch longer nets a 3/4inch drop at the skis with plenty of clearance. drop the FTA 3/4" to the assault position. Vanamburg drop bracket for the rear.

Not sure without the drop and roll if it would work great getting up on the snow but would increase ride height and keep geometry the same or simailar. For $160 bucks could be done easily.

 

[Reg2view]

As said, the Axys is D&R'ed, and, I believe we'll find the front and rear skid arms are longer. It's not just the boards. But, can you come closer on a pro, sure. I dropped the skids front and rear and D&R'ed ZX and Rev summits over the last 15 years, and it worked for snowability and trenching, if you didn't mess up the attack angle. (When you trench it in, it WILL be deeper.)

 

[Danny Dangles]

My thoughts were to do this. Zbros sells a shock extension for the stock Walker shocks 1/2 inch longer nets a 3/4inch drop at the skis with plenty of clearance. drop the FTA 3/4" to the assault position. Vanamburg drop bracket for the rear.

Not sure without the drop and roll if it would work great getting up on the snow but would increase ride height and keep geometry the same or simailar. For $160 bucks could be done easily.

So my question would be, making the changes described above, shock extension and rear bracket drop would it make sense to drop the skid? I have reinforcement plates from RTD (rocky trail designs) with an included hole to drop the front of the skid 1". Also running 7 tooth avid drivers on this sled, so does all this add up to a desired geometry, or does a person need to drop and roll with the ski drop and skid rear mount drop?

 

[LoudHandle]

Without the drop and roll and going to a decent sized driver you are steepening the approach angle and hurting the snow mobility. IMO

If you want to do it correctly, you need to drop all three the same amount, and if your going to drop and roll the driveshaft then by all means lose the god damned assentingly small 7 tooth driver.

 

[DanielWeeks]

The new 2016 Pro will have the 7T driver stock, from what my boss told me when he went with the Polaris Engineers and rode it with them.

 

[LoudHandle]

The new 2016 Pro will have the 7T driver stock, from what my boss told me when he went with the Polaris Engineers and rode it with them.

Yes, I'm aware of that, the only moronic thing the AXYS engineers did in the whole design. Screwed the pooch on that detail, IMO.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Yes, I'm aware of that, the only moronic thing the AXYS engineers did in the whole design. Screwed the pooch on that detail, IMO.

You need to chill a little.
We get it you dont like the 7 tooth drivers.

Bottom line is the sled works better than the pro.....
Its not like poo insulted your mother....
Get over it!

 

[icecarver]

How about a CMX or similar belt drive on the older Pro's and modified spindles… Price of sleds might this be cost effective?? I did like the new '16 intakes….

 

[LoudHandle]

How about a CMX or similar belt drive on the older Pro's and modified spindles… Price of sleds might this be cost effective?? I did like the new '16 intakes….

The only issue I have with the CMX drive is his lowest ratio is like 2.14:1 that is still too high of a ratio for a true mountain sled regardless of how much HP you have driving it. JMO though FWIW

 

[icecarver]

True, I would not like that ratio either… But it would produce geometry that would be similar to the '16 not?

 

[LoudHandle]

True, I would not like that ratio either… But it would produce geometry that would be similar to the '16 not?

It would be similar, as is the C3 / Avid drop and roll belt drive combo for less money and far better ratio selection. 2.52:1 being the lowest stock ratio available. Again FWIW

 

[Spaarky]

Without the drop and roll and going to a decent sized driver you are steepening the approach angle and hurting the snow mobility. IMO

If you want to do it correctly, you need to drop all three the same amount, and if your going to drop and roll the driveshaft then by all means lose the god damned assentingly small 7 tooth driver.

Danny D. I posted over in the Airlok thread too. I agree with the statement above. To do it properly you would have to move the drive shaft with it. Skinz parts create what is similar to the new sled. Yet it very far away. The pro drive shaft location with the lift alters the weight distribution of the sled.

 

[Kcjepperson]

I have ran the cmx belt drive and cmx front end for 2 years now and really like it. My sled sits noticably higher than a stock pro. (Not exactly sure how much, never measured it). To initiate a sidehill or down hill turn it's effortless. If the axys is anything like my current setup it will be great.

I do wish I could get a lower gearing on my belt drive, I have tried the 7 tooth driver with it and while the gearing felt much better. I , like LH believe you give up some efficency with the smaller drivers.

I did do the 3" track on my wifes stock pro with the 7 tooth drivers and IMO the pro does seem to like the lower gearing.

Back to ride height though, I think if done correctly its a game changer. My sled does get on the snow much better and much quicker than a stock sled and the effort it take to initiate any maneuver is much less than any other sled I have ridden to this point. Can't wait to throw a leg over the axys when they do the demo rides.