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Liberals the cancer of this nation? Vote now.

Are liberals the cancer of this nation or are they our saviours?

  • Liberals are the cancer of this nation!

    Votes: 86 74.8%
  • Liberals have there place in politics, but I typically don't support them.

    Votes: 23 20.0%
  • Liberals are misunderstood and we need to be more understanding.

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Liberals like Ted Kennedy are great people with great values.

    Votes: 3 2.6%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .
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You could very well be right.
The next 2 years will tell the future of this country.
If they pass Obamacare, if they pass cap and trade, if they pass amnesty, if the dems maintain majority control of the house and senate after 2010, only a full scale civil war will save the country.
On a positive note, liberals are typically anti-gun and won't fight.

I would say that democrats rarely reflect my political views, but the republican party had better make a sharp return to fiscal responsibility. Right now the choice in 2010 is bad and worse. I am a patriot and I love this country. I believe the problems will solve themselves without the government. But I also believe the solution will be very very painful. History as a guide, America acts too late, the problem becomes paramount, there is much pain, agony, wailing and gnashing of teeth, and then the problem solves itself. Kinda like the last depression, it wasn't the government, but wwII. And for this crisis, the stimulus pack won't solve the problem, but the ills will be solved inspite of it. We just might not like the solution.
 
The biggest problem we will have "IF" we can get this country straightened out is the welfare people.
That is to say the people that rely soley on the government for some form of aid.
It is truly scary the number of people that the feds have been able to put on some form of aid. Be it food stamp, scip, welfare, SS, Medicaid, medicare, if you try to take their freebies away, they will riot. We have to have politicians that have a spine.
The other problem we will have is the fact people expect the feds to cure all the problems, when in fact the fed IS the problem. We need to return to the states that which is constitutionally the states to handle (which would be pretty much everything I listed above).
Look at California, one of the things they were looking at cutting was doing away with Welfare, not cuts, but doing away with it COMPLETELY. Didn't happen, but I thought it was interesting that it was even seriously considered.
 
The biggest problem we will have "IF" we can get this country straightened out is the welfare people.
That is to say the people that rely soley on the government for some form of aid.
It is truly scary the number of people that the feds have been able to put on some form of aid. Be it food stamp, scip, welfare, SS, Medicaid, medicare, if you try to take their freebies away, they will riot. We have to have politicians that have a spine.
The other problem we will have is the fact people expect the feds to cure all the problems, when in fact the fed IS the problem. We need to return to the states that which is constitutionally the states to handle (which would be pretty much everything I listed above).
Look at California, one of the things they were looking at cutting was doing away with Welfare, not cuts, but doing away with it COMPLETELY. Didn't happen, but I thought it was interesting that it was even seriously considered.

I completely agree Ollie! These people that rely on the government tit will be a huge problem! They will turn to breaking the law to survive...oh wait most of them already break the law so they will just turn it up a bit.

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The problem is the feds have been programming the populas that they don't need to work hard, you don't have to have any work ethic, you don't have to worry.
The fed has one program or another that will help you.
When I lose a job, I just go get another one.
When my neighbor lost his job, he was out of work for 9 months because he refused to take a job that he thought was beneath him. After he lost his car, his truck, and almost lost his house, he finally took a job driving a trash truck. He discovered he likes the job and makes as much as he did fixing computers.

Reprogramming the people will be harder than fixing the country.
 
The problem is the feds have been programming the populas that they don't need to work hard, you don't have to have any work ethic, you don't have to worry.
The fed has one program or another that will help you.
When I lose a job, I just go get another one.
When my neighbor lost his job, he was out of work for 9 months because he refused to take a job that he thought was beneath him. After he lost his car, his truck, and almost lost his house, he finally took a job driving a trash truck. He discovered he likes the job and makes as much as he did fixing computers.

Reprogramming the people will be harder than fixing the country.


Yup it is amazing...your neighbor's attitude is all over the place. Glad to see he finally woke up and humbled himself. I was in between jobs 3 years ago. It wasn't a pleasant parting of ways. After I lost my job, I did what I had to do to survive. MY GF suggested I apply for food stamps...I said F**K THAT! I took a job at Sportman's Warehouse in loss prevention making 8 bucks an hour...this was part-time. Then I took a job with Cable One making 10 bucks an hour for 2 months before I landed the job I have now. I was humiliated and poor as hell, but I did what I had to do. Can you imagine the humility when you show up to a house to install cable that you have done a search warrant on!? I did make the cable company aware of that kind of stuff...so they were nice enough to switch me out.


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The government is the cancer, not the people

The government is corrupt.

The government is a corporation.

We are not a democracy.

We are not free.

The Government is the Cancer

Democrats=Republicans

Money is the cancer.

DEA, IRS, and the Pentagon are the CANCER.

The Patriot Act, Stimulus Bills, Bailouts, and WAR for OIL is the cancer.

Democrats and Republicans arguing is the cancer.

Focus on the problem, which is the Corporations that run our Government.
 
I don't agree with all of that and this is why.

The government is the cancer, not the people

The government is corrupt. agreed

The government is a corporation.not really. It is more a facilitator for control.

We are not a democracy.agree

We are not free.to a point. we are a LOT freer (is that a word?) than just about any other society in the world, however, we have lost a lot of the freedoms we had just 10 years ago.

The Government is the Cancer Depends on your definition

Democrats=Republicans agree. As I have said in the past, the change that we got in 2008 was just picking the chit up from one bucket and putting it in another. Same chit, different bucket

Money is the cancer. Disagree. Power is the cancer, money is the side effect.

DEA, IRS, and the Pentagon are the CANCER. Disagree, IRS and DEA are a tool for the gathering of power, power is the cancer. The Pentagon is the one org. that is authorized under the US Constitution and is run by the people for the betterment and strength of our country.

The Patriot Act, Stimulus Bills, Bailouts, and WAR for OIL is the cancer. Patriot act, stilulus bill and bailouts I will agree with. I don't think the war in Afganistan has/had anything to do with oil. I do think the war in Iraq was more about trying to break up islamic power and put democracy (of a sorts) in the middle of the middle east mess to break it up and show the people there is a choice (and it is working). I don't think it was right and I don't think we should have gone in. It deverted resources from the real fight and has prolonged what should have been a 3 year war in afganistan.

Democrats and Republicans arguing is the cancer. Just a power struggle over which path to take to socialism

Focus on the problem, which is the Corporations that run our Government. Corporations don't run the government. Special interests and uber rich (Like Soros) do. Special interests are made up of uber rich and individuals wishing to change the government for their own reason (i.e. enviromentalist), there are special interest groups that favor this legislation over that that represent corporations, however it is more an industry type of special interest and not a point of focus one.
 
Money is power.

not really.
If you have a gun, you have power over someone that doesn't have a gun.
If you have the ability to take someones money thru force, that is about power, not money. The gun gave you the power to get the money. Just as getting elected gives you the power to control money, not the other way around.

Money allows you to buy things, but you can't buy power. You can only buy influence.
Only those people that have power can grant the right to have money.
Case in point, redistribution of wealth.
It's not really about money, it's about having the power to move the money where you want. Doesn't matter who has the money, you will take it because you have power.

Power gives you ability to get money, not the other way around.
Special interests give money to politicians in an attempt to purchase power, it is no garantee they will succeed. Only the politicians hold the power, you can only hope to influence them, you really can't control them.
 
Liberals are the cancer of this nation! 62 76.54%
Liberals have there place in politics, but I typically don't support them. 17 20.99%
Liberals are misunderstood and we need to be more understanding. 1 1.23%
Liberals like Ted Kennedy are great people with great values. 1 1.23%






HAHAHA NICE:face-icon-small-hap








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Liberals are the cancer of this nation! 62 76.54%
Liberals have there place in politics, but I typically don't support them. 17 20.99%
Liberals are misunderstood and we need to be more understanding. 1 1.23%
Liberals like Ted Kennedy are great people with great values. 1 1.23%






HAHAHA NICE:face-icon-small-hap


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US vs. Them

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one. If a liberal doesn’t like guns, then he feels that no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat. If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly enjoys his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic is conservative, he sees himself as being independent. His liberal counterpart sees himself a victim in need of government protection.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who it is that’s going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal wants all mention of God and/or religion silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it or may choose to find a job that provides it. A liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.
 
Nice MPS

I will have to forward that one.

:beer; The absolute truth isn't it?

Libs simply want power and control. They could give a rat's a$$ about some little fish in CA. It is a whole different agenda. Anyone that thinks Algore really cares about the environment is an idiot! It is about power and making money....look at his lifestyle....LMAO. Anyone that thinks the libs really care about people that don't have health care...you too are stupid....it is all about power and control. The more control they have over people....the more it serves their agenda.


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