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Liberals the cancer of this nation? Vote now.

Are liberals the cancer of this nation or are they our saviours?

  • Liberals are the cancer of this nation!

    Votes: 86 74.8%
  • Liberals have there place in politics, but I typically don't support them.

    Votes: 23 20.0%
  • Liberals are misunderstood and we need to be more understanding.

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Liberals like Ted Kennedy are great people with great values.

    Votes: 3 2.6%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .
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MPS

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I am a strong believer that the absence of liberal's morals and ethics are the cancer of this nation. They have stripped our freedoms piece by piece for the last century. There fixation to control people and push a socialistic/communistic agenda has begun killing our country, even in the early 1900's with the Federal Reserve signed in by Woodrow Wilson and Eisenhower's welfare push.

They are the cancer of this nation. It is time to take our nation back and restore it to our founding father's principles!
 
soooo aren't them "Liberal Comi Fawks" the ruin of every nation ????? just saying

where do I vote ??

signed H2 ..slightly confused
 
soooo aren't them "Liberal Comi Fawks" the ruin of every nation ????? just saying

where do I vote ??

signed H2 ..slightly confused

Hold on Tonto...haha....SW made me post the thread before I could enter the poll. Vote away! :beer;

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nope

apathy on the part of voting citizens is.

And the two party system.
 
nice thing about cancer.
You can always cut it out.

No so, my neighbor was 6 feet under 3 months after diagnosis. IMO, this country will not be able to get the real changes that are needed. Can we deport the liberal tree huggers?
 
No so, my neighbor was 6 feet under 3 months after diagnosis. IMO, this country will not be able to get the real changes that are needed. Can we deport the liberal tree huggers?

Yes to Cuba and Venezuela! We will put them on a huge tankers and seal them up and send them there. They should embrace the the tyrants' hospitality right? I mean they are brilliant leaders? Right?


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I agree about the federal reserve, but you are wrong about the cancer of this nation. The cancer of this nation is our own corrupted government, which is not run by liberals in my opinion. I dont know anybody that calls themself a liberal, that is just what you guys (conservative republicans) stereotype people you dont like as.

America was the first liberal country in the history of the world. The word liberal, comes from the word liberty, which is in the constitution. I dont see the word coservative in the constitution. Here is the definition of liberal

"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, suitable for a free man) is the belief in the importance of individual freedom. This belief is widely accepted today throughout the world, and was recognized as an important value by many philosophers throughout history. The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote praising "the idea of a polity administered with regard to equal rights and equal freedom of speech, and the idea of a kingly government which respects most of all the freedom of the governed".[1]

In the 17th Century, liberal ideas began to influence governments in Europe, in nations such as The Netherlands, Switzerland, England and Poland, but they were strongly opposed, often by armed might, by those who favored absolute monarchy and established religion. In the 18th Century, in America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy.[6] The American Declaration of Independence, includes the words (which echo Locke) "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Here is defintion of conservative

"disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change."

We need to change the people running our government, and the process that they get elected by, and make laws. We dont need career politicians. We dont need oil, we need solar, and hydro power. We dont need bad drug laws, and millions of people in jail. We do need to change the way we handle illegal immigrants. All these are liberal ideas. We have a conservative government, that only cares about money, and will do anything, including WAGE WARS, do protect its on profit.

Its time to clean house. Maybe water the tree of LIBERTY as some of you would say. And thats where the word liberal comes from. I want LIBERTY. We need to end the war, stop letting corporations and the government bleed our citizens dry. The government is the one wasting our tax dollars on war, giving OUR MONEY to corporations and insurance companies, imprisoning our youth and sending them to war. Liberals arent the ones doing these things.

YOU GUYS NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES. ITS YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT THAT IS THE CANCER. THE FLAG YOU SO BLINDLY WORSHIP. YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER, OVER STUPID NAMES LIKE LIBERAL, REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT. WHO GIVES A ****. THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CANER.

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CANCER AND SO IS MONEY.

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CANCER AND SO IS MONEY.

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CANCER AND SO IS MONEY.

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CANCER AND SO IS MONEY.

:beer;
 
Hey J if money is the cancer....

well since I am a caring guy, I don't want you to have to suffer...

So I will take your money for you so that you can be "healthy" and FREE.

Just send me a pm and we can work out details.
 
I am a strong believer that the absence of liberal's morals and ethics are the cancer of this nation. They have stripped our freedoms piece by piece for the last century. There fixation to control people and push a socialistic/communistic agenda has begun killing our country, even in the early 1900's with the Federal Reserve signed in by Woodrow Wilson and Eisenhower's welfare push.

They are the cancer of this nation. It is time to take our nation back and restore it to our founding father's principles!

I find this ironic. If Liberals dont have morals or ethics, then how are they stripping our freedoms. George Bush was not a liberal, he is the one that signed the Patriot Act that took away our freedoms. Liberalism, socialism, and communism have nothing to do with each other. Obama is not a liberal or a socialist at all. He works for the CORPORATIONS, and is a WAR MONGER, who will do anything to protect his own economic interests. Mcain would be doing a lot of the same things if he was in office now.

I do think Obama is a liberal in a social since. Him being black , it only makes since to me that he would care about FREEDOM, and EQUALITY, unless his is a brainwashed clone programmed by the illuminati. But when it comes to economics, and war, he is as corrupted as they come. He works for oil, pharmaceutical companies, haliburton, lockheed martin. We need to stop the WAR MACHINE.
 
Hey J if money is the cancer....

well since I am a caring guy, I don't want you to have to suffer...

So I will take your money for you so that you can be "healthy" and FREE.

Just send me a pm and we can work out details.

Money and government dont mix. Thats what im saying fooooool. And i aint got no money for you to give. So pm my balls homie.
 
J-Fly your dictionary definitions, while technically correct, are irrelevant because they ignore the context of American political dynamics.

Politically speaking...
American Liberals support/promote an expansion of government, and government power. At best they are motivated by a naive but sincere sense of fairness. At worst they are anti-capitalist, anti-free market, anti-institution & tradition leftist, radical believers in socialism. They are vocal proponents of free speech unless they disagree with that speech, then they work hard to suppress it. (Fairness Doctrine) They advocate taking earned wealth away from the hard working in order to give it to the ungrateful.

American Conservatives support limited government that holds to the Constitution. They value the intent of the Framers and they want the government to honor that. They believe in life, and family. They value hard work and want a strong economy. They understand that government costs money to operate but they also know that limited, Constitutionally compliant government means low taxes. To conservatives all Americans have the opportunity to succeed and while usually charitable people take no pity on those who choose not to try. Conservatives believe that America is great and worth defending and preserving. They do not believe in and do not want American submission to any sort of global government.

Liberals want to achieve fairness by punishing the successful.
Conservatives want to achieve fairness by keeping what they earned.
 
J-Fly your dictionary definitions, while technically correct, are irrelevant because they ignore the context of American political dynamics.

Politically speaking...
American Liberals support/promote an expansion of government, and government power. At best they are motivated by a naive but sincere sense of fairness. At worst they are anti-capitalist, anti-free market, anti-institution & tradition leftist, radical believers in socialism. They are vocal proponents of free speech unless they disagree with that speech, then they work hard to suppress it. (Fairness Doctrine) They advocate taking earned wealth away from the hard working in order to give it to the ungrateful.

American Conservatives support limited government that holds to the Constitution. They value the intent of the Framers and they want the government to honor that. They believe in life, and family. They value hard work and want a strong economy. They understand that government costs money to operate but they also know that limited, Constitutionally compliant government means low taxes. To conservatives all Americans have the opportunity to succeed and while usually charitable people take no pity on those who choose not to try. Conservatives believe that America is great and worth defending and preserving. They do not believe in and do not want American submission to any sort of global government.

Liberals want to achieve fairness by punishing the successful.
Conservatives want to achieve fairness by keeping what they earned.

Those are your definitions. I dont know anyone that fits your definition of liberal, and you guys would probably call most of my friends liberal. Your definitions are stereo types put out there by manipulators to divide people. Your definiton of liberals, describes the people that run our government, democrats and republicans , are your definition of liberal.

Your second paragraph describes the majority of people in the world, except for a few exceptions.

YOu said

" They believe in life, and family. They value hard work and want a strong economy. They understand that government costs money to operate but they also know that limited, Constitutionally compliant government means low taxes. To conservatives all Americans have the opportunity to succeed and while usually charitable people take no pity on those who choose not to try. "

I think most people want those things, but inorder to get them we need change. On top of what you said, most people want an end to the war on terror and drugs.

Liberals dont want an expansion of government, and government power, the so called conservatives are the ones the want to maintain two wars, and the patriot act. In my opinion democrats and republicans, are both conservative parties. Liberals are independent people , who want small government, social equality, fair education, alternative energy, small buisness, healthy economy, equal healthcare for everyone. And liberal people want these things for the whole world, not just the lines on the map that are called America. Conservatives are people who are brainwashed into believing anything their corrupt goverment tells them, and will do anything to protect that goverenment. Thats my opinion.
 
What you would call liberals, i would call the illuminati. You wrote

Politically speaking...
American Liberals support/promote an expansion of government, and government power.At worst they are anti-capitalist, anti-free market, anti-institution & tradition leftist, radical believers in socialism. They are vocal proponents of free speech unless they disagree with that speech, then they work hard to suppress it. (Fairness Doctrine) They advocate taking earned wealth away from the hard working in order to give it to the ungrateful.


Those are all things our government is doing right now. Is our government run by liberals? Or democrats and republicans. I am confused now.
 
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