Lets talk chain cases and belt drives???

[UtahEdge]

So, After blowing up my 3rd chain case in about 9 rides this weekend I have some questions. Are the hyvo gears and chains holding up for you guys?
Or is the belt drive system the only thing holding up? If so, what do you guys prefer the TKI or the C3? I'm kind of on a limited budget right now but I want to ride.
Thanks for your help.

 

[ReaperMotorsports]

Im running the C3 without problems I added that along with the evo stage 3 tcl delete and 4130 800 shaft. The C3 is a very nice product but should be for the cost, you wont be able to run the tki since from what ive seen they do not have a solution for the oil tank like C3 does so thats really your only option for the beltdrive. Others may have experience with the hyvo gears and chains.

 

[mtncat1]

So, After blowing up my 3rd chain case in about 9 rides this weekend I have some questions. Are the hyvo gears and chains holding up for you guys?
Or is the belt drive system the only thing holding up? If so, what do you guys prefer the TKI or the C3? I'm kind of on a limited budget right now but I want to ride.
Thanks for your help.

i always had problems breaking chains on my 1ms then switched out to hyvos and never had another problem. good luck

 

[bigstick]

I blew my chain case up once then put the manual tensioner in it and no more problems and I have a big chute on it.

 

[plumberdood]

Put in the hivo gears and chain plus Manuel tensioner. If you upgraded your hoarse power then I would also put in the stage three delete.

 

[UtahEdge]

I blew my chain case up once then put the manual tensioner in it and no more problems and I have a big chute on it.

Manual tensioner was installed after the second blow up. It still blew.

 

[tyco72]

Go c3. Buy spare belt. Done.

 

[Hotchief]

I'd go with the C3 based on what I've read - but I have no need to invest further because we have no snow this year.

Currently I am running the manual tensioner, hyvo chain, and reverse delete.
Didn't want to disable the reverse set, but it seemed like too much crap spinning around & going on in the case.

Have not had any problems as of yet.

 

[randall01]

chain case

You obviously have another issue. Three chaincase's in nine rides.

 

[UtahEdge]

You obviously have another issue. Three chaincase's in nine rides.

All three times that it has happened so far have been when I hit the bottom of a river gully or the bottom of a steep hill and then give her all shes got to get up the other side. Could the compression of the suspension and the track going loose and then the amount of torque created be causing the jack shaft to flex making the gears go out of alignment?
This is what we found the second time. Not sure on this third one yet. We haven't torn into it yet.

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[JustBoostIt]

Sold tons of hyvo sets and manual tensioners. In my sleds I ran hyvos in one and the other had the c3 drive. Both sleds were at 325hp with SC kits. Never had issues with either one. We don't use a straight bearing on the mag side if you do a a belt drive thou as the js doesn't enter the case at 90 in almost every sled.
If you want to keep reverse then hyvos it is. The belt drive saves you more weight and costs around a grand more.

3 chains in 9 rides does seem extreme. When Evo was doing the upgraded US made stock chain we did see a few that the teeth had been pulled off much like your pic.

 

[6000fthigh]

two top gears that look just like yours in four rides first year went to C3 belt drive haven't had one problem in three thousand mile with it don't use Arctic Cat drive line parts there junk.towed out a 14 800 on Sunday with oil dripping out of the chain case its a sad thing Cat

 

[ZRrrr]

You obviously have another issue. Three chaincase's in nine rides.

I agree with this statement. What year is your seld? If you have not upgraded to the new 2015 Cat shaft, or one of the aftermarket I would start there (Cats 2015 shaft is waay better and cheap). You already have manual tensioner so that's all good. Hyvo gears and chain for added assurance. Best you can do on a limited budget.

 

[RACINSTATION]

Get a C3 belt drive and a heavy duty 800 Jackshaft and you are good to go.

 

[LoudHandle]

Lose the silent chain and cheap powder metal upper sprocket

First, I'm not a Cat guy, but from the pics: Those are powder metal Sprockets=weak and fragile. Additionally I believe Cats are still using silent chain which is even more prone to failure, due to the tooth profile (thinner) and more sliding friction as the chain meshes with the sprocket. There is a reason the automakers switched to HYVO more than 20 years ago, In a word RELIABILITY! Not to mention it is stronger and stretches less.

If you want to stay chain, switch to HYVO and run a billet (machined) sprocket on the top, if you can afford a billet bottom fine if not the powder metal in that large of a diameter should last.

Regardless you should check the rest of the bearings and shafts to verify they are running true and in alignment. If you opt for going to the belt drive, verifying the shafts, bearings, alignment, and that everything is planer in all three dimensions is paramount. The chain will handle more misalignment than the belt because the chain is narrower and can flex some at every pin. The belt will suffer a short life if the proper alignment in all three planes is not met. FWIW

 

[UtahEdge]

Does anyone know where I can find the hyvo gears and chains? The dealer cant find them any where. Thanks for your help.

 

[LoudHandle]

Team

 

[UtahEdge]

Team

Called them, they said they were on back order.

 

[6000fthigh]

EVO

did you try EVO

 

[taz1000]

Call Jim at Evolution Power sports that's where I got mine .great service and any problems you have just call him and he will help in any way he can