I have the expensive bibs (forget what they are called), they were frayed at the end from rubbing on my boards. I was told I could send it in and have them do repairs for $40 shipped. I figured that was reasonable. I got a call from Klim a few days later telling me that when they tested the bibs, the seat was showing signs of leaking (that sounds wrong). So they sent me the 2013 version of my bibs for free! That is good service. Brand new free bibs because mine were worn. I think the problem here is that everyone expects that when they wear (uh...tear) their gear that Klim will replace it for free. Be reasonable and I think you will find that Klim has it together.