So this guy is offering me a king cat in trade for a sport bike I have, and when I asked how long the track was he said 159. So I said oh so it's a 1m not a king cat, and he said the regular king cats were 159, and the king cat titanium is a 162 and has no speedo. I'm no expert, but I was pretty sure king cats were 162s and mountain cats were 159 or 151. I currently have an 04 159 king cat, and my friend has an 04 king and I'm pretty sure it has a speedo. Is there any reality to what this guy is saying? Waiting on pics, but he says that it has no graphics/stickers on it so that probably wont help much.
King cat titanium?
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As far as I know all Kingcats were 162 3.0 pitch. Mountain cats were 151 and 159, 2.52 pitch. Shouldnt be too hard to tell if it is a kingcat. 1- does it have ti springs? 2- as far as I know all kingcats had a 3.0 pitch track of some kind. (A-20 or challenger) 3- kingcats have the dropped chaincase factory. Look for the black plastic protecter under the right side. 4- kingcats had a lighter weight seat and a clear tank. 5- kingcats had ti springs in the front shocks, or floats depending on year. Those should get you the answer you are looking for. Good luck! -00's
As far as I know all Kingcats were 162 3.0 pitch. Mountain cats were 151 and 159, 2.52 pitch. Shouldnt be too hard to tell if it is a kingcat. 1- does it have ti springs? 2- as far as I know all kingcats had a 3.0 pitch track of some kind. (A-20 or challenger) 3- kingcats have the dropped chaincase factory. Look for the black plastic protecter under the right side. 4- kingcats had a lighter weight seat and a clear tank. 5- kingcats had ti springs in the front shocks, or floats depending on year. Those should get you the answer you are looking for. Good luck! -00's
Thanks, I'm thinking it's a mountain cat unless he is completely wrong about the length of his track. Either way gonna have to take another look, with only 1,300 miles it could be a sweet ride.
Any input on the carbs? The one I ride now is efi and it's treated me very well so I'm weary of the carbs. Might end up just flipping this one right after trading it to keep the efi... This one has slp twin pipes and paragon clutch, those make it worth keeping around?
Any input on the carbs? The one I ride now is efi and it's treated me very well so I'm weary of the carbs. Might end up just flipping this one right after trading it to keep the efi... This one has slp twin pipes and paragon clutch, those make it worth keeping around?
Put a Holtzman AATAC on the carb sled and it will run better than the EFI.
Many people don't differentiate between the 1Ms and the King Cats. That's because there really isn't a lot of difference. The chassis is identical. Seat/tank/handlebars/suspension. Everything will interchange except the tracks and drivers.
Previous posters are correct in that the King Cats were all 3" pitch, 162 length stock. They didn't all have the attack 20, and many that did will have been changed by now. They did have titanium springs stock, although some won't by now, what with people modding the clutching and such. Especially where you say this one has a Paragon secondary.
I believe all 1Ms came with the speedo in the box, not installed. Many people (or dealers) installed them, some didn't. All 1Ms had the drop and roll on the chaincase, not just the Kings. They also all had the lightweight seat and clear tank.
Pictures may help clarify, I believe you can also get the VIN number, and a dealer can look it up and tell you exactly what it is.
I'd be more wary of the twin pipes than the fact that it's carbed. I like my carbed engines, although the EFI ones I've been around have also been impressive.
Also, when you say you have an '04 159" King Cat, did you change the track and drivers, or do you mean a regular 1M?
Previous posters are correct in that the King Cats were all 3" pitch, 162 length stock. They didn't all have the attack 20, and many that did will have been changed by now. They did have titanium springs stock, although some won't by now, what with people modding the clutching and such. Especially where you say this one has a Paragon secondary.
I believe all 1Ms came with the speedo in the box, not installed. Many people (or dealers) installed them, some didn't. All 1Ms had the drop and roll on the chaincase, not just the Kings. They also all had the lightweight seat and clear tank.
Pictures may help clarify, I believe you can also get the VIN number, and a dealer can look it up and tell you exactly what it is.
I'd be more wary of the twin pipes than the fact that it's carbed. I like my carbed engines, although the EFI ones I've been around have also been impressive.
Also, when you say you have an '04 159" King Cat, did you change the track and drivers, or do you mean a regular 1M?
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1m do have drop and roll 3.5 04 they made it and do have clear tank the difference is the 162 3.0 pitch and the titaniam springs other wise same sled
Got pics and it's definitely just a regular 1m mountain cat. The only upgrades are a 2 wheel kit and twin pipes which from reading stuff here are probably the two least recommended upgrades possible, so I'm probably just gonna pass on the trade.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Thanks for the help everyone!
