I recently bought a rack of 36mm flatslide Mikunis for my 84 Phazer and was wondering if anyone had Info on Jetting, needles, etc? The carbs came off a 98 V-max 600 sx. I ride at anywhere from 7000 to 11500 feet so I'm sure the stock setup, ( which these carbs appear to have in them), will be way to rich
Jetting 36mm Flatslides for an 84' Phazer
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R u serious? i mean i could put that thing in a museum, jk i better ask first what size track and if you got a turbo on that thing egh??? Might want to put this posting under yamaha....
Thanks that was very helpful! Not all of us want to ride or can afford to buy new machines...
Anyone else have any ideas that would be useful?
Anyone else have any ideas that would be useful?
I ran flatslides on my old phazer. The carbs I had fit the stock manifolds. As for jetting here in the flatlands I ran them pretty to close to the what was in the carbs for my motor/mods. Needles in the middle, 45 pilots, and 155 mains is what mine liked. I probably could have leaned it out a touch, but it ran good, made good power, and stayed together. That's all I was looking for.
Ditto...
Exactly what he said. One of the easiest phazer mods out there. I found that the 600 carbs are set up almost perfect for a phazer with a pipe. I ran a set with both PSI twin pipes, and Bender/Aaen single pipes along with gutted airbox, cold air kit, Bender ported cylinders, SX-cut pistons, and Boyeson reeds. Carbs worked great. My set-up was a little peaky, and I would have to re-jet if there were temp swings of 10-15 degrees. I found that the flatslides would use the same jetting as the stock phazer carbs set up for the same mods. You will have to jet up at least one size if you gut the airbox, and another if you install a cold-air kit. I could give you jetting suggestions, as I have set up both phazer carbs and 600 carbs for just about every conceivable engine combo, but I only ran from sea-level to 3500', so my experience won't help you much. Just start out slightly richer than the stock carbs, test it, and lean it out as needed. If the mid-range is a little doggy, drop the needles a clip. Best thing for setting up a phazer is running an EGT guage and learning how to use it. An almost mandatory addition if you are serious about phazer performance.
If you install the carbs, gut the airbox. You will notice a difference. Do you have a pipe? Get one! A PSI single or the Bender/Aaen "can" pipe, are two of the best out there. What ever you do, do NOT buy a DG pipe. You can find them cheap, but the bottom-end is non-existant with them. Running a pipe along with these carbs and a gutted airbox will REALLY wake your sled up.
I have a Bender cold air kit in the back of the shop from my old mod phazer if you are interested, and may still have a pipe laying around. If you need any phazer info, parts, or have questions, please feel free to PM me, I ran my hair-dryer for ten years before I finally went liquid. I can give you a handful of tricks to wake up your phazer! I also have set-up sheets for PSI and Bender pipes that have jetting and clutching recommendations for varying elevations and temps.
Another thing that I just remembered - the stock 600 v-max throttle cable has a 90 degree bend in it coming off of the carbs that makes it a pain to clear the phazer airbox. It can be done, but it is hard to route the cable so that you don't put it in a bind. I carefully took some of the bend out of the 90 to help with clearance. You'll figure it out. You will need the 600 throttle lever assy as well. As for the chokes, I blocked off the factory plunger chokes, and installed a primer. Much easier. I kept having trouble with the plungers hanging up, flooding the engine.
My rant is over. Even though I have been on 'Doos for years, I still have this passion for old Phazers, you know??
I miss ol' Red, it was a great sled......
Exactly what he said. One of the easiest phazer mods out there. I found that the 600 carbs are set up almost perfect for a phazer with a pipe. I ran a set with both PSI twin pipes, and Bender/Aaen single pipes along with gutted airbox, cold air kit, Bender ported cylinders, SX-cut pistons, and Boyeson reeds. Carbs worked great. My set-up was a little peaky, and I would have to re-jet if there were temp swings of 10-15 degrees. I found that the flatslides would use the same jetting as the stock phazer carbs set up for the same mods. You will have to jet up at least one size if you gut the airbox, and another if you install a cold-air kit. I could give you jetting suggestions, as I have set up both phazer carbs and 600 carbs for just about every conceivable engine combo, but I only ran from sea-level to 3500', so my experience won't help you much. Just start out slightly richer than the stock carbs, test it, and lean it out as needed. If the mid-range is a little doggy, drop the needles a clip. Best thing for setting up a phazer is running an EGT guage and learning how to use it. An almost mandatory addition if you are serious about phazer performance.
If you install the carbs, gut the airbox. You will notice a difference. Do you have a pipe? Get one! A PSI single or the Bender/Aaen "can" pipe, are two of the best out there. What ever you do, do NOT buy a DG pipe. You can find them cheap, but the bottom-end is non-existant with them. Running a pipe along with these carbs and a gutted airbox will REALLY wake your sled up.
I have a Bender cold air kit in the back of the shop from my old mod phazer if you are interested, and may still have a pipe laying around. If you need any phazer info, parts, or have questions, please feel free to PM me, I ran my hair-dryer for ten years before I finally went liquid. I can give you a handful of tricks to wake up your phazer! I also have set-up sheets for PSI and Bender pipes that have jetting and clutching recommendations for varying elevations and temps.
Another thing that I just remembered - the stock 600 v-max throttle cable has a 90 degree bend in it coming off of the carbs that makes it a pain to clear the phazer airbox. It can be done, but it is hard to route the cable so that you don't put it in a bind. I carefully took some of the bend out of the 90 to help with clearance. You'll figure it out. You will need the 600 throttle lever assy as well. As for the chokes, I blocked off the factory plunger chokes, and installed a primer. Much easier. I kept having trouble with the plungers hanging up, flooding the engine.
My rant is over. Even though I have been on 'Doos for years, I still have this passion for old Phazers, you know??
I miss ol' Red, it was a great sled......
1991 Phazer
hey zackmandu do you still have the spec sheets on the jetting for the piped phazer all so i had a set of twin pipes given to me for a phazer any idea who all made the twins for phazer and do you have any specs for twin pipes? no any one with a set of carbs from a 600 v-max?
Thanks
hey zackmandu do you still have the spec sheets on the jetting for the piped phazer all so i had a set of twin pipes given to me for a phazer any idea who all made the twins for phazer and do you have any specs for twin pipes? no any one with a set of carbs from a 600 v-max?
Thanks
