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Jaws twin pipes...anyone?

there were a couple guys on here that had them,and they had runability issues ect i would really stick to the slp twins. would be a good comparison between our sleds if you got them ol classic 7 vs 8:face-icon-small-hap
if ronan can figure out my electrical issues
 
i know, i just saw that on their website and am excited to see if its true or not, there might be some guys in the race programs that have them already
 
Brad Wurston makes twins for the IQR on the D8 Engine....so he probubly would make some twins for these engines. IT is worth talking to him
 
a good friend of mine has a 08 d8 with an SLP race engine (been over jackson before). It has twin pipes. The sled rips and he loves the pipes. Makes my sled look like its fan cooled. granted he is running 50-50 race gas and has porting and other mods, but he LOVES his SLP twins. If i keep my RMK i will put SLP twins on for next season.
 
Greg Jaws has one set of D8 stamped twins on a trail sled at sealevel that he says are working good with PCV adding fuel in mid and on top end. Had to reduce compression to prevent knock and says he made 30 hp over bone stock 143 HP. He has one other set that he will bring to my dyno facility as soon as I get a mule sled to test them on. I plan to do a twin pipe shootout to compare Jaws to SLP and CPI.
 
Guys that think you can bolt on a set of twins on this motor and have great performance increases from stock are in for a very rude awakening irregardless of the brand including SLP. Also note simply putting a proper tune on a dog can add 20hp! Kind of depends on where you start.

Done right they are absolutely impressive and you'll struggle to enjoy a really well setup and running single pipe pump gasser there after because there is that much difference when things are going right....

THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT:
For maximum and consistant reliable high performance results you need the following:
actual pipe and exhaust design (some work some don't and depends on a combo of stuff)
correct head modification (some work and some absolutely do not)
correct octane of fuel (there are huge performance variables within .5 octane rated fuels and it varies along with the use environment...just saying run 50-50 is like saying it's hot outside..What is hot...hot enough to die...hot enough to sweat...hot enough to not feel cold?)
EGT's and the knowledge to applicate the info
correct clutching and valve pressure management
either a custom ecu for your environment or the ability to manage your fuel. Knowing the density altitude value and the relationship that has to your engines performance plus understanding your margin versus your fuel octane is magical information.

Sounds daunting? IT IS! This is why you buy a COMPLETE known setup from a reliable source who has already designed a "system" of tested and known performance and you applicate it within those known environments. Get outside of that or forego some key pieces of the puzzle and quite possibly suffer the consequences of bad or inconsistant performance or a major mechanical.

My testing shows you get about an average of 3500 alt feet and 20* of ambiant air (if all things remain constant, which they generally don't, you get about 6% variance of air density before things tilt) if conditions remain relatively consistant for density values before your buggy will run irratically on previously great setup. Interestingly there appears to be a relationship between these same air values to how both single pipers and then again stockers operate on the 800 CFI system but it's with further variation of values. We can then theorize that performance exhaust/spark/fuel management does narrow the band and requires more finite management to achieve high performance.
 
Greg Jaws has one set of D8 stamped twins on a trail sled at sealevel that he says are working good with PCV adding fuel in mid and on top end. Had to reduce compression to prevent knock and says he made 30 hp over bone stock 143 HP. He has one other set that he will bring to my dyno facility as soon as I get a mule sled to test them on. I plan to do a twin pipe shootout to compare Jaws to SLP and CPI.
its going to be interesting to see these results, 30 hp is alot, if they do what they say, i will have a set, if not,, a pg turbo will be on order. regardless, it will will be cool too see what you come up with



Guys that think you can bolt on a set of twins on this motor and have great performance increases from stock are in for a very rude awakening irregardless of the brand including SLP. Also note simply putting a proper tune on a dog can add 20hp! Kind of depends on where you start.

Done right they are absolutely impressive and you'll struggle to enjoy a really well setup and running single pipe pump gasser there after because there is that much difference when things are going right....

THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT:
For maximum and consistant reliable high performance results you need the following:
actual pipe and exhaust design (some work some don't and depends on a combo of stuff)
correct head modification (some work and some absolutely do not)
correct octane of fuel (there are huge performance variables within .5 octane rated fuels and it varies along with the use environment...just saying run 50-50 is like saying it's hot outside..What is hot...hot enough to die...hot enough to sweat...hot enough to not feel cold?)
EGT's and the knowledge to applicate the info
correct clutching and valve pressure management
either a custom ecu for your environment or the ability to manage your fuel. Knowing the density altitude value and the relationship that has to your engines performance plus understanding your margin versus your fuel octane is magical information.

Sounds daunting? IT IS! This is why you buy a COMPLETE known setup from a reliable source who has already designed a "system" of tested and known performance and you applicate it within those known environments. Get outside of that or forego some key pieces of the puzzle and quite possibly suffer the consequences of bad or inconsistant performance or a major mechanical.

My testing shows you get about an average of 3500 alt feet and 20* of ambiant air (if all things remain constant, which they generally don't, you get about 6% variance of air density before things tilt) if conditions remain relatively consistant for density values before your buggy will run irratically on previously great setup. Interestingly there appears to be a relationship between these same air values to how both single pipers and then again stockers operate on the 800 CFI system but it's with further variation of values. We can then theorize that performance exhaust/spark/fuel management does narrow the band and requires more finite management to achieve high performance.

wanna help me tune? j/k, you have very valid points and awesome knowledge, im sure its not a "bolt on mod" with consistent results
 
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