Is there a difference between a 900 "MTN" cat and a 900 "KING" cat?
Just been looking at sleds and noticed the different names.
Just been looking at sleds and noticed the different names.
Is there a difference between a 900 "MTN" cat and a 900 "KING" cat?
- Thread starter PowderCrew
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king cat/mountain cat
kingcats had 162" tracks, ti springs all aound, fox floats up front! thats about it I think there might be some little differences still! Having a brain fart!
kingcats had 162" tracks, ti springs all aound, fox floats up front! thats about it I think there might be some little differences still! Having a brain fart!
Ti springs, 162 and a kinda cool orange color. Angles and power were the same. i believe it came in @ just under 500 pounds?
Roughly 6 to 8 lbs. lighter than a 159 Mtn. cat. In '04 It was the first 1M to have the 3" pitch Attack20 track. Sucked in the hardpack, But was ruthless in the powder! The '04 EFI 159 won the shootout over the KK, Because the 2.52 2" track was better all the way around. Would hook harder at the start, And keep accelerating throughout the rest of the coarse. The 151, And 159 Skidoos were always faster off the line but the Cats would take charge a couple hundred ft. into the run. If you want the best of the litter a '06 KK would be the one! Put on a powerclaw and have a heyday! Note: An 03.5 timing curve in the KK would have been the best of both worlds, Much better engine response for higher altitude!
Mike
Mike
So, is there that much drop-off between the two? Seems to be an average $2000.00 drop-off for the Mtn. (around $3000.00) as opposed to the King ($5000.00)
Makes sense they were and are a high mark sled!! They can hang and bang with the best of the new 800's. Just need a lot more more more more body English!!! But if your a fit guy with no fear that sled will take you up and sometimes past the M8's. The price diff is cause those boys payed outa the *** to get the best and are trying to get something back. take a stocker and put on a longer track and titanium? it will cost more than 2 grand. IMO
I had an 04 king cat. By far the best motor of any sled I've had. I'd take that motor over my M1000 any day. BUT..... the M chasis opens a whole new level of riding.
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diggerdown
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I don't know where you are seeing a big price difference wetween the two. Maybe $200 difference in selling price. You could get the efi on the 04' M1 but the KK was carbed. In 05' the KK went either way and by 06' they were all efi. When I bought my 04' KK, it cost me $600 more than a 900 159" efi. I spent the extra because I wanted to do some mods and we did not have much for fuel control boxes for the efi. Different story now.
Granted there are alot of factors and variances... but on average im seeing the MTN's for around $3000.00 and king cats for around $5000.00 around Idaho and Utah. A large factor is probably the year (of course a KK is a newer sled, hence more $) For instance... would there be much of a performance drop-off if I were to buy an '03 Mtn for $3000.00 (stock) vs. purchasing a '05 KK for $5000.00 (stock)??? I've even found a few '03's for under $3000.00... just trying to get an idea on the difference between these two sleds?
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joshua335
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For the difference of 2k go for the MTN cat, to me it ain't worth spending that much more for the king. Is it worth 2k to you to climb higher?
I'd try and find an 04 159" with EFI, but I do have a 03 that I am happy with.
i agree spend the money on a single pipe and reeds!! it wakes them right up and drops huge weight, the stock silencer was a beast. There is a great thread on here about all the mods that make those sleds fantastic. I have an 03 that has some nasty miles on it and is still a pull the rope and ride. IMO you cant beat that motor!!
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diggerdown
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You can buy a lot of KK's for $4000 and under. The early 03' 151" is usually the cheapest but they are a different sled. You can tell the early models by the dimples on the running boards and the chaincase stuck out below the bellypan. They were 20 lbs heavier and older suspention and A arms. If your looking at a 03 1/2 with a 159 compaired to a 04' king, then you are not looking at more than a couple hundred dollars difference in value.
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Arctic Thunder
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You beat me to it. I was also going to say you need to at least get the 03.5 late release. It will have the heat exchanger tubes in the corners of the tunnel also. So you don't have to have the notched track.
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untouchable
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If you go stock for stock, Id say the King Cat will win. But for the 2K difference you can throw alot of aftermarket on a Mountain Cat 900 that will smoke a King. Here is my 2003 MC that I built up. Essentially it is a King, but a little better....
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untouchable
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It also depends on the type of riding youll be doing, wheather its some trail, mostly off trail, strictly hillclimbing...
The 151 is a great all around track, where as the 162s like the pow and are the best for hillclimbing. But thats not to say you can't put a 162 on a mountain cat. Mine in the picture above was originally a 151, but I made a custom tunnel extension and coolant system to accomodate a 162X16X2.5 Extreme (and of course switching to 3.0 drivers).
The motors are relatively close, the ignition being the main difference. Carb vs EFI... the EFI is going to run great everyday, but the carbs will take to mods a lot easier. A pipe and can are great additions!
A 990 or 975 work great in these chassis!
The Titanuim springs make about 5lb difference total between the two sleds, its up to you if thats important. The Fox Floats are nice, but you can tune a spring setup to perform just as well. And if need be you can put a set of Floats on a MC for about $500...
The Kings ran 20/46 gearing, where as the MCs ran 19/43. Id recomend going to the 20/46, it helps on chains.
The '03.5 and up ran a 2 piece tunnel which is nice for changing length. And the coolant lines ran on the outside corners of the tunnel. (But you can sneak a 2.5 on a chassis with the coolant lines in the center you just have to get some drop brackes and go to a smaller tooth driver)
There are so many threads on here that are nothing but how to mod these sleds. Never a shortage of knowledge!
Good Link:
http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1587549#post1587549
The 151 is a great all around track, where as the 162s like the pow and are the best for hillclimbing. But thats not to say you can't put a 162 on a mountain cat. Mine in the picture above was originally a 151, but I made a custom tunnel extension and coolant system to accomodate a 162X16X2.5 Extreme (and of course switching to 3.0 drivers).
The motors are relatively close, the ignition being the main difference. Carb vs EFI... the EFI is going to run great everyday, but the carbs will take to mods a lot easier. A pipe and can are great additions!
A 990 or 975 work great in these chassis!
The Titanuim springs make about 5lb difference total between the two sleds, its up to you if thats important. The Fox Floats are nice, but you can tune a spring setup to perform just as well. And if need be you can put a set of Floats on a MC for about $500...
The Kings ran 20/46 gearing, where as the MCs ran 19/43. Id recomend going to the 20/46, it helps on chains.
The '03.5 and up ran a 2 piece tunnel which is nice for changing length. And the coolant lines ran on the outside corners of the tunnel. (But you can sneak a 2.5 on a chassis with the coolant lines in the center you just have to get some drop brackes and go to a smaller tooth driver)
There are so many threads on here that are nothing but how to mod these sleds. Never a shortage of knowledge!
Good Link:
http://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1587549#post1587549
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Great mod untouchable. This may sound strange cause I cant explain it but I've owned both the '03.5 159" 1M and the '04 King Cat. The King even with the slightly longer track handled noticeably better. The newer chassis although similar sidehills easier and is flat easier to throw around. If it were me I'd get nothing older than an '04 1M chassis.
