Is anyone in the sprayfoam insulation business?
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Closed Cell Foam or Open Cell Foam? What are you thinking and why?
There are many, many bad points about "running a business" but the reason people do it is for the only good reason... to make money in order to prolong their self existence and for the benefit of their loved ones.
Here are a few topics specific to the type business you mention that you will need to deal with:
1. DOT (as your business needs to be mobile)
2. OSHA (as the business has health concerns only during the installation process)
3. Start Up Costs (to do it right you will have $70,000 to $90,000 invested in the necessary equipment for 1 rig, plus the cost of a truck or trailer to house it)
4. Cold Weather Installation (creates challenges, inefficiencies, and lower yield)
5. Maintenance (the equipment is very finicky and will require regular maintenance costing about $9,000 to $11,000 per year for parts and incidentals only, plus labor)
6. A Consistent Supply of Work (this type of business is seasonal and not repeat… meaning once you have supplied a job that person does not need it again, unlike a consumables business like gas or groceries)
7. Training (before starting you will need to attend a training course to get certified to install, and after that there definitely is a learning curve)
I wish you good luck if you decide to do it, have a business plan, have the financial resources to support it, find a good employee (2 man job), and work hard to achieve success.
There are many, many bad points about "running a business" but the reason people do it is for the only good reason... to make money in order to prolong their self existence and for the benefit of their loved ones.
Here are a few topics specific to the type business you mention that you will need to deal with:
1. DOT (as your business needs to be mobile)
2. OSHA (as the business has health concerns only during the installation process)
3. Start Up Costs (to do it right you will have $70,000 to $90,000 invested in the necessary equipment for 1 rig, plus the cost of a truck or trailer to house it)
4. Cold Weather Installation (creates challenges, inefficiencies, and lower yield)
5. Maintenance (the equipment is very finicky and will require regular maintenance costing about $9,000 to $11,000 per year for parts and incidentals only, plus labor)
6. A Consistent Supply of Work (this type of business is seasonal and not repeat… meaning once you have supplied a job that person does not need it again, unlike a consumables business like gas or groceries)
7. Training (before starting you will need to attend a training course to get certified to install, and after that there definitely is a learning curve)
I wish you good luck if you decide to do it, have a business plan, have the financial resources to support it, find a good employee (2 man job), and work hard to achieve success.
pretty tough bussiness for the guys here. last winter a guy was telling me he had 2 barrels freeze on him at $450 a piece. i had my rim joist done and it shunk all up and cracked, he had to come back and spray all over again. he said not the right mixture or somthing.
I spent three days this summer installing about a thousand feet of electric de-icing heat tape on a $8 million house in the Yellowstone Club. The whole house is vaulted raftered roofs. The roof accumulated enough ice last year to completley flaten the seams of the standing steel roof. In the roof valleys the weight was so much that like glacial movement the heavier slab of ice pushed the smaller backwards up hill and buckled the steel wide open and leaked water in several different spots in the house down some very extravigant wood work. The whole problem is being pinned on the insulators for improperly spaying the insulation in sub zero weather. This will be a problem that will plauge this house for ever. So make sure you have good insurance!
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Disco Dan Richter
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A good biz if you are not being overrun by competitors. If you are one of a few guys doing it you can do real well, as this is the future of insulation, I hope that it will be code one day that all new homes have to have this over fiber\glass.
Some good info already here so heed it indeed, just keep in mind that we are in a recession and biz will be slow for a bit.
Spray foam insulation is b y far the best product in 50 years, everyone who wants to save on heating and cooling should use it regardless of cost.(I preach this to my clients) It amy take a bit to recover the cost, but when put into the whole deal of a new home loan, it is nothing.
Good Luck.
Some good info already here so heed it indeed, just keep in mind that we are in a recession and biz will be slow for a bit.
Spray foam insulation is b y far the best product in 50 years, everyone who wants to save on heating and cooling should use it regardless of cost.(I preach this to my clients) It amy take a bit to recover the cost, but when put into the whole deal of a new home loan, it is nothing.
Good Luck.
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zaxxcmx925 has been spraying foam for 25+ years he sprayed my house when i built it 5 years ago
PM him his is full of info . his in the AK section allot .
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zaxxcmx925 has been spraying foam for 25+ years he sprayed my house when i built it 5 years ago
PM him his is full of info . his in the AK section allot ..
The biggest heat lost in the house are windows and doors it is a very good option for people who wants to spend more $ on their home.It is good to have option as fiberglass insulation.
I don't know much about sprayed insulation but, isn't it CRITICAL that the house be pressure tested a few days after the insulators are finished and the interior of the outside walls/ceilings must remain exposed. My neighbour at the lake did his new cabin, and the insulators had to come back and do a repair.
They do a 'blower door test"
All the doors, windows, vents etc. in the house are closed and a blower door is installed in place of one door. ( a blower door is a door with a fan and manometer in it).
The blower is turned on and the pressure that can be built up in the house is measured. If there are air leaks in the spray foam where it has pulled away from the studs, sheeting, inner roof etc. ... pressure can't be built up in the house. They find the air leaks with an infrared scanner.
The bad thing about these air leaks with spray in insulation is that the foam is also your vapour barrier.... so any spot you find a leak is a spot where you are GOING to have a condensation problem, unless it's fixed (sealed so its airtight) This is why the house that Kraftymike is talking about above is screwed and needs to be fixed properly or it's going to totally rot away.
These blower door tests are done in houses around here all the time in energy consumption audit programs where you're trying to cut down energy losses.
http://www.sheltertech.com/bdt.htm
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I just had the spay foam done on my new house a few weeks ago, Cool stuff.
The house holds heat like you can't believe
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The house holds heat like you can't believe
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