I have a Silber kit coming for my 2012 Pro. I have seen some posts that state that a turbo sled is very hard to ride or at best very hard to get the true potential out of unless you install a Kmod or Timbersled skid. I would like to hear from both guys riding sleds with and without a modified skid. Thanks.
Is a custom skid a must on a turbo Pro?
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I have modified my stock skid, so it atleast will hold up the extra forces it will be put through when adding a turbo.
And i don't Think you HAVE to buy a new skid, just seg te original up correctly and maybe Get sone new shocks. Om trying with my stock modified this season, and if it works like crap ill Get the Kmod og EZ-ryde.
And i don't Think you HAVE to buy a new skid, just seg te original up correctly and maybe Get sone new shocks. Om trying with my stock modified this season, and if it works like crap ill Get the Kmod og EZ-ryde.
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dmkhnr
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Best way to tell is to ride it with the turbo first.
I've ridden turbo sleds that lift the front end 2' off the snow, which can be fun for showboatin but not something you really want in a climbing, or technical riding situation.
The pro seems to keep the front end close to the snow. It does transfer and lift but not more than a few inches which makes it very controlable.
I think the stock is a great turbo susp.
I've ridden turbo sleds that lift the front end 2' off the snow, which can be fun for showboatin but not something you really want in a climbing, or technical riding situation.
The pro seems to keep the front end close to the snow. It does transfer and lift but not more than a few inches which makes it very controlable.
I think the stock is a great turbo susp.
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theshadowrider
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I was told the same thing on my dragon but a new skid is not needed. I run 12 lbs and have not seen a need for a new skid. Before I spent the money I want to ride one compared to a stock sled same day, same climb. You will be just fine on the pro with a turbo with the stock skid. Not saying they don't help, just saying it's not a must.
this is whay I wanted the assault with stiffer suspension. That and Im a larger guy.
I think revalving the stock shocks will be the most you may NEED to do. The more I honestly consider what my riding style and ability are and whay i bought the turbo the less I am inclined to spend on the skid.
the reality for me is that i will rum this sled at 6-8 #s of boost 10 tops im not a 14# WFO hillclimber so i dont need the extra for the sled to work for me. I think it depend on what your doing with the sled.
for me its about compensating for elevation as much as anything else . In theroy I hope I wont need to be WFO all the time to ride the sled where my ability allows me to.I think
I certainly would not rush out and buy anything until you see how it does !
I think revalving the stock shocks will be the most you may NEED to do. The more I honestly consider what my riding style and ability are and whay i bought the turbo the less I am inclined to spend on the skid.
the reality for me is that i will rum this sled at 6-8 #s of boost 10 tops im not a 14# WFO hillclimber so i dont need the extra for the sled to work for me. I think it depend on what your doing with the sled.
for me its about compensating for elevation as much as anything else . In theroy I hope I wont need to be WFO all the time to ride the sled where my ability allows me to.I think
I certainly would not rush out and buy anything until you see how it does !
As much help the aftermarket skid will be Avid anti-ratchet drivers will even be more noticable. Able to loosen the track a bunch with out an issue free's up some real ponies!
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Ride a K-Mod skid and then you will think it's necessary. One example....climbing up to a road in fresh, jumping the road to land into a pretty good, nearly vertical wall of snow, you don't have to even let out as you hit that near vertical wall! It just hits, sinks a little, and keeps on going!
It all depends on your abilities and how/what you ride.
The aftermarket skids will give you more control when under power and have more durable components than the stockers have...
Revalves do not keep the skis on the ground... just the rate at which they lift. And this alters the ride quality and control as well.
I've been on some turbo'd stock shock sleds with bigger springs or floats with the air pumped up... This helped, to a degree, with ski lift, but then it rode like a buckboard.
A coupled skid that is adjustable is a more appropriate tool for this application, but as many here will tell you the stock skid will get the job done for many.
It's all about staying under control and not using up your energy trying to do it.
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The aftermarket skids will give you more control when under power and have more durable components than the stockers have...
Revalves do not keep the skis on the ground... just the rate at which they lift. And this alters the ride quality and control as well.
I've been on some turbo'd stock shock sleds with bigger springs or floats with the air pumped up... This helped, to a degree, with ski lift, but then it rode like a buckboard.
A coupled skid that is adjustable is a more appropriate tool for this application, but as many here will tell you the stock skid will get the job done for many.
It's all about staying under control and not using up your energy trying to do it.
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440dart
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my 08 d7 with twins has way to much transfer ya know the typical bottomed out rear if your truely into climbing and techni rideing your not getting the best bang for your buck without a coupled rear skid. I really notice how bad it is when going really slow and nailing the gas just makes it really really tipy when your ski's are 2ft in the air
If you can afford it just bite the bullet and get a timbersled or something simular that couples
If you can afford it just bite the bullet and get a timbersled or something simular that couples
Stock shjocks won't do it on a turbo. It will get you by if you set it up better but it is still not the best. The pivot points are all set up for factory hp levels. The pivot points and balances need to be changed to make it work perfect.
They won't.
Thanks for the response to my question I see that some of the skid makers offer a partial kit that gives you the ability to adjust the amount of coupling? It's about half of a complete skid and includes an upgraded shock. What advantage does buying the whole skid offer? I have a 163" track and I don't want to change the length and was wondering if I go the cheaper route what am I giving up?
The front stock arm is still small diameter bare aluminum inside of a an un-bushed tube of the swingarm.
The aftermarket offerings are much more heavyduty than the stocker is.
The stock center shock would still need to be revalved.
AND....
You would not have the value of your stock skid to sell to offset the cost.
The aftermarket offerings are much more heavyduty than the stocker is.
The stock center shock would still need to be revalved.
AND....
You would not have the value of your stock skid to sell to offset the cost.
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Anthony Oberti
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I ran Carls Cycle rear set-up(Fox) and had no problems running 9-10lbs. Granted, the straight rails help.
What choices besides Timbersled and Kmod? The Kmod guys are pretty vocal with their praise. I like that the Timbersled is a quick and infinite adjustment. I like the Raptor shocks on the Kmod. Comments?
Kevin's customer service (K-Mod) is even better than the skid!
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Kestrel2126
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I'm running 10 PSI + on mine with the Carl's Cycle's mod (Custom valved fox shock package), and I am very happy so far. Previously, I was on a Dragon running 14 PSI with the Timbersled skid, and it work incredibly well. The Pro's obviously have much different handling characteristics, though. I think a coupled suspension is definitely the way to go for straight climbing, however in the trees, a little front end lift is a good thing. Personal preference, but I guess my answer is, no, a aftermarket skid is not necessity, but some form of suspension tuning/changes are going to make the sled perform a lot better.
Where do you ride, good chance someone might let you try theres out, I would if your ever around. You don't have to have a skid but after you ride one you will wish you would have had one from the go.
This is a really good thread, but long, it talks about lots of different skids, options, and results. Its in the yami section but still same concept.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271886&highlight=KMOD
The partial kits work, (what I rode to start with) but like mentioned you will have to convert your shocks and if you upgrade they will only be sell able if you change them back $$$ or sell them to someone that want to try it, there where a few times I wish I had adjusters, like when you add 3gal of gas to the back of the tunnel and then the valving doesn't work as good, still works fine but with the clickers you would be set in seconds.
The full kits, you get raptors! triple rate springs and a 20 click adjuster with straight rails. what I am getting. The t-sled skid comes with pretty much the same thing more or less but different brand
I am not a fan of t-sleds older skids at all, but we will see how there new skid does, I like that on the kmod the arms are equal lengths and if you want you can adjust the coupling from 0-100%.
One of the big things I noticed was if you have to climb a rut from someone else with a stock skid it throws you around, the kmod lifts the sled and you just float where you want to go. Sidehills better, maneuvers better when climbing and on descents. It absorbs humps that will make you wheelie with a stock sled, its just the chit. Try and see if someone will let you ride one in difficult terrain, you wont be able to get one fast enough.
I would still try it stock though and then if you change your mind you can fill us in on the difference, thats what I usually do just so I know.
This is a really good thread, but long, it talks about lots of different skids, options, and results. Its in the yami section but still same concept.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271886&highlight=KMOD
The partial kits work, (what I rode to start with) but like mentioned you will have to convert your shocks and if you upgrade they will only be sell able if you change them back $$$ or sell them to someone that want to try it, there where a few times I wish I had adjusters, like when you add 3gal of gas to the back of the tunnel and then the valving doesn't work as good, still works fine but with the clickers you would be set in seconds.
The full kits, you get raptors! triple rate springs and a 20 click adjuster with straight rails. what I am getting. The t-sled skid comes with pretty much the same thing more or less but different brand
I am not a fan of t-sleds older skids at all, but we will see how there new skid does, I like that on the kmod the arms are equal lengths and if you want you can adjust the coupling from 0-100%.
One of the big things I noticed was if you have to climb a rut from someone else with a stock skid it throws you around, the kmod lifts the sled and you just float where you want to go. Sidehills better, maneuvers better when climbing and on descents. It absorbs humps that will make you wheelie with a stock sled, its just the chit. Try and see if someone will let you ride one in difficult terrain, you wont be able to get one fast enough.
I would still try it stock though and then if you change your mind you can fill us in on the difference, thats what I usually do just so I know.
