I'm ask for any good input on wether I should buy a 1100t I'm not a extreme rider I ride just on the weekends like to ride medium size hills play in meadows just ride normally no extreme stuff tired of buying oil for two stroke I've read problems about these is this what is happening to the biggest percentage of these sleds or just a few out there thanks for any info
Info on wether to buy a 1100 t
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Like you I was in the market for one of these an almost pulled the trigger over the weekend on a boondocker customized and upgraded 1100T snopro. We have no snow currently so I could not justify buying it and then praying to the snowgods to maybe provide another 4 weeks at most of snow for riding.
My thoughts are this.
Power on these things seems addictive and will make you smile from ear to ear.....that is until you get it stuck. (Notice that I didn't say "if"
) If you're a casual rider like I am you tend to turn or stop or let off the gas at inopportune moments. These things apparently use engine braking so If you let off the throttle you could land yourself in a deep situation. At 585 lbs dry weight you need people around to help you get out unless you know what you're doing.
My other concern was that with a second hand boosted sled, if you're not mechanically inclined and you have no warranty you may have trouble dealing with possible leaks. That sled moves and bounces a lot during riding and so does the engine components and hoses and wiring. Combine that with sub zero temperatures as the sled sits outside at night and then hot hot temperatures at daytime riding and things expand and contract. Wires and hoses don't like that and need maintenance after a while. You also deal with high pressures in hoses due to boost.
I think boosted sled are great idea but the territory is a different ball game.
From what I've read on handling etc, I'm leaning towards a boosted 800 in my future searches as they seem to be easier on the body if you are not an experienced rider.
I still own a Pantera 1000 triple so I know what it feels like to dig out a 650 lb sled)
Just my .02
My thoughts are this.
Power on these things seems addictive and will make you smile from ear to ear.....that is until you get it stuck. (Notice that I didn't say "if"
) If you're a casual rider like I am you tend to turn or stop or let off the gas at inopportune moments. These things apparently use engine braking so If you let off the throttle you could land yourself in a deep situation. At 585 lbs dry weight you need people around to help you get out unless you know what you're doing.My other concern was that with a second hand boosted sled, if you're not mechanically inclined and you have no warranty you may have trouble dealing with possible leaks. That sled moves and bounces a lot during riding and so does the engine components and hoses and wiring. Combine that with sub zero temperatures as the sled sits outside at night and then hot hot temperatures at daytime riding and things expand and contract. Wires and hoses don't like that and need maintenance after a while. You also deal with high pressures in hoses due to boost.
I think boosted sled are great idea but the territory is a different ball game.
From what I've read on handling etc, I'm leaning towards a boosted 800 in my future searches as they seem to be easier on the body if you are not an experienced rider.
I still own a Pantera 1000 triple so I know what it feels like to dig out a 650 lb sled
)Just my .02
I have been curious to the weight of this machine, is 585 correct? Does anyone know the weight of the 2 stroke m8000? Sounds like to me if you put a vent kit, inter cooler fan and a new radiator cap these sleds are good to go. I also need some info on the 4 stroke turbo by riders, on the handling, durability, fun factor, etc..
If your tired of buying oil you should get a skidoo etec. They use less oil than a m1100t. 4 strokes still need oil changes and if you change oil when your suppose to and use synthetic oil the 4 stroke will cost you more. Also the new xm is way easier to play around on. Lighter is better unless you need more horsepower.
I had a 1100 turbo and it was by far the most fun sled i have owned down the trail.I ride the timber allot so it worked the snot out of me could not ride it for more than half a day in the technical stuff before looking for a way out. Very hard at my 200lbs to make this sled downhill turn. It mostly rides you to the bottom. If you are 6'5 and 250 plus linebacker this is the sled for you. I will say they are fun in the deep snow but that does not happen as much as it should!
I weighed both wet, ready to ride. 2013 1100t 162 636lbs and a 2013 M8 SP 153 at 538lbs. That extra 100lbs does tire you out after a long day of boondocking, but the power does make you smile ear to ear. The power really is addictive. I would say have a dealer take you on a demo ride and ride the M8 and 1100t and then make your decision. I have both and love each for different reasons.
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diggerdown
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Just wait until next year and get a new cat built 800, 65/1 oil ratio shouldn't break the bank.
Maybe a little more than next year.........
Funny hearing people talk about oil ratios... all 3 etecs I have use more oil than any of my cats ever did, and I mix heavy according to most people.
All the stupid figures about oil ratio (from MFG's I mean) are based on tooling down the trail at 25 mph at a consistent throttle or something, cause each Etec uses 1/3 tank a day or better when I'm riding them. I'm sure the new cat will be the same, if you're on it... it's gonna use some oil, and that's a good thing
All the stupid figures about oil ratio (from MFG's I mean) are based on tooling down the trail at 25 mph at a consistent throttle or something, cause each Etec uses 1/3 tank a day or better when I'm riding them. I'm sure the new cat will be the same, if you're on it... it's gonna use some oil, and that's a good thing
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jbunce
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Im 150# all geared up. I bought the sled brand new in 2012 and for the last 2 years I hated it. Now note I said hated, I just had the 38" A-Arms and the 215 evo flash put on and now its a super fun sled to ride. I know there are lots of issues of guys blowing belts my first belt belt blew at 850 miles and then new one has 150 miles and its fine so I think I just got lucky 3 of us have the same sled and only one has a belt blower. This sled does make you tired though if i ride it like i ride my 2013 polaris im beat by 2 anyone who says that these cant be ridden in the trees is lying it just takes its toll but well worth it.
With all that said would I buy a new one now? Not a chance as of right now im dead set on a 2 stroke turbo so next sled thats what ill be doing but i have never ridden a 2 stroke turbo so i could end up back on the 4 stroke again in the future.
This is from sicamous this weekend. snow conditions weren't very good we were riding on 5" of hoar frost.
With all that said would I buy a new one now? Not a chance as of right now im dead set on a 2 stroke turbo so next sled thats what ill be doing but i have never ridden a 2 stroke turbo so i could end up back on the 4 stroke again in the future.
This is from sicamous this weekend. snow conditions weren't very good we were riding on 5" of hoar frost.
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diggerdown
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Don't you know people like you better if you have a positive attitude!
I was in exactly the same boat as you, same riding type and everything and I jumped from my trusty ol M7 to a 1100T this year. Love it.
The chassis seems to work for me better, and the power is awesome. I do think the extra weight up front works the dog out of me on long shallow side-hills in crappy snow….but that stuff worked me on my M7 too…just not as badly.
In nice snow though, I don't even notice the weight. I do much more riding with both feet on the running boards with the 1100 than I ever did with my M7, I find I rarely need to go wrong foot forward, even on a downhill U-turn.
Like said above, maybe demo one, but I wouldn't be afraid of an 1100 if I was you.
The chassis seems to work for me better, and the power is awesome. I do think the extra weight up front works the dog out of me on long shallow side-hills in crappy snow….but that stuff worked me on my M7 too…just not as badly.
In nice snow though, I don't even notice the weight. I do much more riding with both feet on the running boards with the 1100 than I ever did with my M7, I find I rarely need to go wrong foot forward, even on a downhill U-turn.
Like said above, maybe demo one, but I wouldn't be afraid of an 1100 if I was you.
